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Re: Adobe Releases Last Linux Version Of Flash Player

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Post by jlarocco »

ktizo wrote: post #9

Been working in flash since version 2 and years ago I wrote a 3d engine in flash mx by duplicating and scaling right angled triangles to draw all the polygons. Professionally, I am often the person who recommends what technologies get used when a site gets made. And I very much doubt with this recent news from adobe that I will bother to use flash for a commercial project ever again. Especially given what you can get…

That's nice of you, but honestly I doubt this will have a very big impact.

Flash support has been poor on Linux for a very long time. For example, 64-bit Linux desktops have been popular for most of the last decade, and I'm not sure there's ever been an official 64-bit release. Sure, it's been possible to get it working, but it's a hassle. The poor Linux support is one of the main reasons so many Linux users dislike Flash and are always saying how it needs an open source alternative version.

Since Linux support has never been a big deal for people choosing Flash in the past, I can't see this having a big impact on their decisions now.

Re: Adobe Releases Last Linux Version Of Flash Player

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Post by rbarooah »

stcredzero wrote: post #10
rdtsc wrote: post #7

They in a bit of a difficult situation. Since there are so many mobile devices and so many of them are iPhones, anyone building websites will try to steer away from using Flash. So Flash is dying, fast. The best they could have done is to completely open source it. Open source the spec fully, the players and the server. But even then, frankly it is too late. There are standards worked on that will completely replace…

Since there are so many mobile devices and so many of them are iPhones, anyone building websites will try to steer away from using Flash. So Flash is dying, fast. I'll call out Steve Jobs on this one. Another good one! The best they could have done is to completely open source it...frankly it is too late. There are standards worked on that will completely replace it: Websockets, WebGL, WebRTC and so on. "Incumbent" i…

What open standards should Apple be paying attention to that you don't think they are?

Re: Adobe Releases Last Linux Version Of Flash Player

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Post by tiles »

stcredzero wrote: post #10
rdtsc wrote: post #7

They in a bit of a difficult situation. Since there are so many mobile devices and so many of them are iPhones, anyone building websites will try to steer away from using Flash. So Flash is dying, fast. The best they could have done is to completely open source it. Open source the spec fully, the players and the server. But even then, frankly it is too late. There are standards worked on that will completely replace…

Since there are so many mobile devices and so many of them are iPhones, anyone building websites will try to steer away from using Flash. So Flash is dying, fast. I'll call out Steve Jobs on this one. Another good one! The best they could have done is to completely open source it...frankly it is too late. There are standards worked on that will completely replace it: Websockets, WebGL, WebRTC and so on. "Incumbent" i…

I don't think Steve Jobs necessarily is responsible for this, but that he was aware that it was going to happen. If the iPhone had shipped with a poor implementation of Flash, which was all Adobe was capable of delivering, Flash would still eventually die off. Jobs was just aware that it was worth the sacrifice of political capital to do away with Flash, since in a few years it would be a moot feature.

Re: Adobe Releases Last Linux Version Of Flash Player

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Post by icebraining »

rdtsc wrote: post #7

They in a bit of a difficult situation. Since there are so many mobile devices and so many of them are iPhones, anyone building websites will try to steer away from using Flash. So Flash is dying, fast. The best they could have done is to completely open source it. Open source the spec fully, the players and the server. But even then, frankly it is too late. There are standards worked on that will completely replace…

Well, I think they can make (and they probably already have it) a snazzy editor/creator to generate HTML5

Yes: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/edge/

Re: Adobe Releases Last Linux Version Of Flash Player

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Post by snissn »

They're dropping support for firefox for linux it seems and will maintain support for chrome through their pepper api. Also they will maintain the latest binary release of flash for linux by pushing security patches. If anything they're dropping support for firefox and derivatives for linux and keeping support for chrome. But who uses firefox these days anyways?

Re: Adobe Releases Last Linux Version Of Flash Player

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Post by astine »

snissn wrote: post #15

They're dropping support for firefox for linux it seems and will maintain support for chrome through their pepper api. Also they will maintain the latest binary release of flash for linux by pushing security patches. If anything they're dropping support for firefox and derivatives for linux and keeping support for chrome. But who uses firefox these days anyways?

"But who uses firefox these days anyways?"

I am writing this reply from within Firefox.

Re: Adobe Releases Last Linux Version Of Flash Player

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Post by icebraining »

jiggy2011 wrote: post #5

So, what does flash actually run on these days? Windows desktop PCs & laptops, on Mac desktops & laptops (for how much longer?) and that's about it. Well , looks like everyone should sharpen up those JS skills.

You do realize that those clients represent ~89% of all web usage, right?

Re: Adobe Releases Last Linux Version Of Flash Player

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Post by snissn »

astine wrote: post #16
snissn wrote: post #15

They're dropping support for firefox for linux it seems and will maintain support for chrome through their pepper api. Also they will maintain the latest binary release of flash for linux by pushing security patches. If anything they're dropping support for firefox and derivatives for linux and keeping support for chrome. But who uses firefox these days anyways?

"But who uses firefox these days anyways?" I am writing this reply from within Firefox.

Okay thanks for the downvote, astine. I was making a general point about its market share http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/01/chrome-vs-firefox-g...

Re: Adobe Releases Last Linux Version Of Flash Player

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Post by snissn »

shad0wfax wrote: post #6

I cannot see how they can be serious about Flash if they are going to ignore Linux. It makes sense from Adobe's point of view, because the adoption on Linux is minimal, but for someone creating content on flash (for example - for video, games, or even some old school websites), this is just making it harder. Now these content creators have to worry about their clients on Linux platform. Adobe might as well say that F…

Flash on linux has always been bugging and CPU inefficient..
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