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The Insidious Lie That We Can’t Understand Each Other

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Re: The Insidious Lie That We Can’t Understand Each Other

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It seems to me that there are some valid points in this essay. The most extreme versions of the position that they are arguing agains, that it is completely impossible for the majority to understand the experience of the majority, is likely both false and harmful.

However, it seems to me that the writer makes a mistake by attempting to evaluate a political strategy as though it was an academic philosophy position. That is to say, he's likely right that "identity synthesis" is not completely intellectually rigorous; however, it was never intended to be, it was intended to be a pragmatic political strategy.

For example, "identity synthesis" was likely never intended to suggest that there is literally a set of shared experiences shared by literally every member of a given minority group. It is just meant to suggest that in general a given group more or less shares a set of experiences.

Similarly, "identity synthesis" most likely is not concerned with whether, from a philosophical perspective, it is possible for groups to have knowledge of experiences they haven't had. Rather it is concerned with the fact that in practice the majority does not prioritize experiences they do not share with minority groups.

in taking a pragmatic political stance and argue that it is not intellectually rigorous; when I don't think it was ever intended to be.

For example, I don't think the point of

Re: The Insidious Lie That We Can’t Understand Each Other

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a person who fits within your example, this is what I always come back to. I can completely understand a person’s position in support of abortion, but no amount of talking through the issues will get us in alignment. Many of these big issues (homelessness, immigration, universal income, abortion) come down to one’s particular viewpoint on humanity and human rights, and if folks aren’t in alignment from that founda…

In modern societies the solution here is simply voting - people with similar worldviews group, and advocate for their position. The fringe positions, like advocation of slavery will lose. In the US, the winner takes all makes it more difficult, because you only get two options, and they have to represent views of a broad spectrum of voters.

Also, folks need to appreciate the role that govt has in our lives (or that we want it to).

I don’t want the gov’t to implement my personal moral worldview. I want the gov’t to assure a basic level of law abiding and morality (I.e don’t kill or steal), and stay out of the rest.

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