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Can You Customize My Startup's Login Page?

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Re: Can You Customize My Startup's Login Page?

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Post by ermir »

I too once thought "Why don't girls like me for who I am, why do I have to dress nice and make myself presentable, this is just a façade and I want them to love me for who I am inside", but then I grew up and understood that appearances matter and there's no point in fighting people's feelings. You might say "don't worry buddy, my startup is really good and effective, don't mind the messy styling and presentation" but why place that hurdle on your business when just a tiny bit of effort can make a big difference.

There's no need to be pixel perfect, but some eye for colors and proportions goes a long way, just like there's no need to perfectly groom every single hair, but a nice shave and deodorant go a long way.

Re: Can You Customize My Startup's Login Page?

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Post by simonjgreen »

This is terrible advice. The author is essentially discounting the value of aesthetic, which is nonsense, and then suggesting that if you do value aesthetic you automatically have a bad product or a bad investor, again utter rubbish.

I argue it’s the other way, discounting aesthetic in this way to me says you are either lazy (and therefore I should be concerned about credibility and other gaps) or you are a contrarian in which case you will likely be high maintenance and trouble.

Re: Can You Customize My Startup's Login Page?

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Post by navigate8310 »

rozenmd wrote: post #3

Absolutely this (with caveats). You might argue that the idea of an MVP has shifted more towards "quality", but if you're not in a crowded market (I am, OnlineOrNot got significantly more users when I started caring about landing pages), and fixing expensive problems, you can get away with a lot. In a previous gig I worked at a startup so early stage they had hardcoded their logins in the backend, and users could not…

> in a previous life I worked at a startup

It's very fascinating that you remember your previous life

Re: Can You Customize My Startup's Login Page?

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Post by rozenmd »

navigate8310 wrote: post #13
rozenmd wrote: post #3

Absolutely this (with caveats). You might argue that the idea of an MVP has shifted more towards "quality", but if you're not in a crowded market (I am, OnlineOrNot got significantly more users when I started caring about landing pages), and fixing expensive problems, you can get away with a lot. In a previous gig I worked at a startup so early stage they had hardcoded their logins in the backend, and users could not…

> in a previous life I worked at a startup It's very fascinating that you remember your previous life

didn't realise that's not a common expression everywhere, fixed

Re: Can You Customize My Startup's Login Page?

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Post by infixed »

glutamate wrote: post #4

This is poor advice. Lots of people make a quick judgement on your trustworthiness based on whether you at least have adequate design. If they turn away in 200 ms because of poor design, they will never be able to evaluate what your true value proposition is. Many decisions in a B2B context are defensively made, so as to avoid the risk of looking stupid in the future if things don't work out. Like the old saying, nob…

Is it poor advice though? I don't think the article is suggesting to skip designing a nice landing page -- the article is saying that customizing the _login page_ is not worth the effort, which I agree with.

I can say that at my last company, redesigning the login page was bottom of the stack of things we wanted our first designer to work on. We just had a centered "Login with Google" button, our logo, and a email + password form. What else do you need?

Re: Can You Customize My Startup's Login Page?

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Post by Springtime »

ermir wrote: post #11

I too once thought "Why don't girls like me for who I am, why do I have to dress nice and make myself presentable, this is just a façade and I want them to love me for who I am inside", but then I grew up and understood that appearances matter and there's no point in fighting people's feelings. You might say "don't worry buddy, my startup is really good and effective, don't mind the messy styling and presentation" bu…

Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27581391

Re: Can You Customize My Startup's Login Page?

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Post by glutamate »

kqr wrote: post #9
glutamate wrote: post #4

This is poor advice. Lots of people make a quick judgement on your trustworthiness based on whether you at least have adequate design. If they turn away in 200 ms because of poor design, they will never be able to evaluate what your true value proposition is. Many decisions in a B2B context are defensively made, so as to avoid the risk of looking stupid in the future if things don't work out. Like the old saying, nob…

Your conclusion is hard to argue against, but I'd like to pitch in that some customers explicitly want something that's not well designed. In particular, those customers that think adopting an early-stage prototype will give them a competitive advantage, they expect something that's not well designed. If they get something shiny when they've asked for a prototype, they'll be worried you're trying to hide a turd behin…

Super interesting, I think this level of 3D client interaction is above my pay grade
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