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Bedbug crisis sparks political row in Paris as insect ‘scourge’ continues

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Re: Bedbug crisis sparks political row in Paris as insect ‘scourge’ continues

#11
My grandmother dealt with bedbugs in 1950s Paris. I always thought of them as a thing of the past that couldn't possibly resurface in the present day. Clearly, I was wrong. Given that this is France, the likely solution is to commission a task force to spend five years working on a white paper that ultimately concludes more taxes are needed.

Re: Bedbug crisis sparks political row in Paris as insect ‘scourge’ continues

#12

My grandmother dealt with bedbugs in 1950s Paris. I always thought of them as a thing of the past that couldn't possibly resurface in the present day. Clearly, I was wrong. Given that this is France, the likely solution is to commission a task force to spend five years working on a white paper that ultimately concludes more taxes are needed.

> a thing of the past that couldn't possibly resurface in the present day

What would be stopping them?

Re: Bedbug crisis sparks political row in Paris as insect ‘scourge’ continues

#13
post #6

Writing this article without mentioning AirBnB is quite the exercise in avoiding talking about root causes.

Did they mention _american_ bedbugs?

airbnb being a really good propagation vector as you cannot have the same grade bug fighting than in a classic hotel.

Basically, all big international tourist destinations are at "risk" of no severe bug control is done (airbnb...).

What are we going to end up with? if hotel syndicates push mandatory severe bug control (aka expensive) in the regulation, that would make 99% of airbnb illegal?

Re: Bedbug crisis sparks political row in Paris as insect ‘scourge’ continues

#14

Why would you rent your home out with the risk of bedbugs?

Homes? Nah they’re ‘investments’. I live in Brittany, France and new buyers, low earners etc are completely priced out of the market. My partner is a nurse and at her hospital they are closing wards because nurses, cleaners, healthcare assistants and even junior doctors can’t find, let alone afford accommodation.

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#15

It mentions various downsides of bedbugs but doesn't mention blood borne diseases... Isn't that how it works, if it bit a guy with hepatitis then bit you, you will probably get it?

While bed bugs carry a lot of stigma, they are not disease carriers. To date, no published study has demonstrated a causal relationship between bed bugs and infectious disease transmission in humans. Also, we present and propose to expand on previous hypotheses as to why bed bugs do not transmit human pathogens. Bed bugs may contain “neutralizing factors” that attenuate pathogen virulence and, thereby, decrease the a…

This is awesome. Now I wonder if I'm similarly wrong about mosquitoes... (edit: those suckers do of course transmit, malaria and so on, but not sure about other diseases like hiv or hepatitis, haven't heard of mosquitoes as vector?)

Re: Bedbug crisis sparks political row in Paris as insect ‘scourge’ continues

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post #13
post #6

Writing this article without mentioning AirBnB is quite the exercise in avoiding talking about root causes.

Did they mention _american_ bedbugs? airbnb being a really good propagation vector as you cannot have the same grade bug fighting than in a classic hotel. Basically, all big international tourist destinations are at "risk" of no severe bug control is done (airbnb...). What are we going to end up with? if hotel syndicates push mandatory severe bug control (aka expensive) in the regulation, that would make 99% of airbn…

> if hotel syndicates push mandatory severe bug control (aka expensive) in the regulation, that would make 99% of airbnb illegal?

We can but dream.

Re: Bedbug crisis sparks political row in Paris as insect ‘scourge’ continues

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

While bed bugs carry a lot of stigma, they are not disease carriers. To date, no published study has demonstrated a causal relationship between bed bugs and infectious disease transmission in humans. Also, we present and propose to expand on previous hypotheses as to why bed bugs do not transmit human pathogens. Bed bugs may contain “neutralizing factors” that attenuate pathogen virulence and, thereby, decrease the a…

This is awesome. Now I wonder if I'm similarly wrong about mosquitoes... (edit: those suckers do of course transmit, malaria and so on, but not sure about other diseases like hiv or hepatitis, haven't heard of mosquitoes as vector?)

Unfortunately not, they're considered "the world's deadliest animal"

https://www.cdc.gov/globalhealth/stories/2019/world-deadlies...

[Edit: posted before your edit. Bonus points for the "suckers" pun :) ]

Re: Bedbug crisis sparks political row in Paris as insect ‘scourge’ continues

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It mentions various downsides of bedbugs but doesn't mention blood borne diseases... Isn't that how it works, if it bit a guy with hepatitis then bit you, you will probably get it?

While bed bugs carry a lot of stigma, they are not disease carriers. To date, no published study has demonstrated a causal relationship between bed bugs and infectious disease transmission in humans. Also, we present and propose to expand on previous hypotheses as to why bed bugs do not transmit human pathogens. Bed bugs may contain “neutralizing factors” that attenuate pathogen virulence and, thereby, decrease the a…

"Decrease the ability to transmit infection diseases"

Why dont they say stop and not decrease ?

So they can transmit pathogens ?

How did this paper get published

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