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Re: Valve releases Counter-Strike 2

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Post by Zambyte »

jauzj wrote: post #4
miohtama wrote: post #2

Reading the reviews > to many cheaters to enjoy Some obvious problems have not been solved in two decades.

They need a kernel-mode anti-cheat like all the other fps games have.

Or they could ignore the people crying about cheaters because they lost.

I was previously SMFC. People love to call cheats way more often than people actually cheat im that game. People cannot fathom simply being worse, or they cannot emotionally handle it.

No, they should not add kernel level malware to the game.

Re: Valve releases Counter-Strike 2

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Post by bravetraveler »

joshmn wrote: post #9

For those wondering why the release date reads 2012: Game ID 730 was Counter Strike: Global Offensive. https://web.archive.org/web/20121001095729/http://store.stea... The developer in me find it weird that they didn't make a new database record for this internally.

I think it's seen as more of an upgrade than a new game. Incidentally, this means any self-hosted CS:GO servers will be updated/replaced with CS2.

The 'steamcmd' tool used to manage servers uses the same IDs.

The configs probably differ, that'll be fun. My client config seems to need updated, it's not executing.

Edit: For those with custom client configs, they used to go here, under the 'Counter-Strike Global Offensive' dir:

    csgo/cfg/
They now go here:

    game/csgo/cfg/

Re: Valve releases Counter-Strike 2

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Post by Rebelgecko »

joshmn wrote: post #9

For those wondering why the release date reads 2012: Game ID 730 was Counter Strike: Global Offensive. https://web.archive.org/web/20121001095729/http://store.stea... The developer in me find it weird that they didn't make a new database record for this internally.

CS2 is replacing CS:GO (kinda like how Overwatch 2 replaced Overwatch, but hopefully with a better outcome in this case)

Re: Valve releases Counter-Strike 2

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Post by Jnr »

bravetraveler wrote: post #10
Jnr wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It ran via proton during beta but VAC did not allow playing on Valve servers. Now there is also a proper Linux version. Though I am not getting any sound for some reason. I'm sure there will be a fix soon.

Yea, I skipped playing mostly due to that. Without VAC there's not much point. Bots or cheat-competition servers/lobbies, lol. Same here, actually - no sound. I don't even see the application in pavucontrol ; even though the game sees my devices, it doesn't claim them?

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/csgo-osx-linux/issues/3256

I'm using pipewire for audio so passing `-sdlaudiodriver pipewire` to the game fixed it for me.

Re: Valve releases Counter-Strike 2

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Post by bravetraveler »

Jnr wrote: post #14
bravetraveler wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, I skipped playing mostly due to that. Without VAC there's not much point. Bots or cheat-competition servers/lobbies, lol. Same here, actually - no sound. I don't even see the application in pavucontrol ; even though the game sees my devices, it doesn't claim them?

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/csgo-osx-linux/issues/3256 I'm using pipewire for audio so passing `-sdlaudiodriver pipewire` to the game fixed it for me.

Ditto, actually - pavucontrol just leverages the Pulseaudio-speak it's aware of.

Thank you, that worked! Happy fragging :)

edit: If anyone notices laggy audio, try going to the audio settings and switching devices from 'auto' to the one you want

Re: Valve releases Counter-Strike 2

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Post by jakebasile »

I wish I could get into this game, but I just can't. The difficulty curve isn't so much a curve as a wall (see also Dota 2) and there's weird (to me) things like you can't change ADS to "hold the right mouse button" instead of "click the right mouse button". The most I can do in it is play against some very dumb bots.

Hope it's a nice upgrade for the people who enjoy it! Good to see it has a native Linux build as well (I know all Valve games do, but in my experience native builds don't always work as well as the Windows versions under Proton).

Edit: I installed it and lo and behold they have an option to make aiming a hold vs toggle. Now the only barrier is my incredible lack of talent and skill.

Re: Valve releases Counter-Strike 2

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Post by w-m »

joshmn wrote: post #9

For those wondering why the release date reads 2012: Game ID 730 was Counter Strike: Global Offensive. https://web.archive.org/web/20121001095729/http://store.stea... The developer in me find it weird that they didn't make a new database record for this internally.

It's a little quirky indeed, as the newer version completely shuts out part of the player base: If you try to launch CS:GO on Mac, it automatically deletes itself and updates to CS2. Then it tells you that it can't run, because cs2.exe can't be found.

Re: Valve releases Counter-Strike 2

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

Zambyte wrote: post #11
jauzj wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They need a kernel-mode anti-cheat like all the other fps games have.

Or they could ignore the people crying about cheaters because they lost. I was previously SMFC. People love to call cheats way more often than people actually cheat im that game. People cannot fathom simply being worse, or they cannot emotionally handle it. No, they should not add kernel level malware to the game.

I mean, cheating is likely to be an actual problem. Not that it justifies the malware, but there is a real problem even if that's not a reasonable solution.

Re: Valve releases Counter-Strike 2

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Post by kupopuffs »

jakebasile wrote: post #17

I wish I could get into this game, but I just can't. The difficulty curve isn't so much a curve as a wall (see also Dota 2) and there's weird (to me) things like you can't change ADS to "hold the right mouse button" instead of "click the right mouse button". The most I can do in it is play against some very dumb bots. Hope it's a nice upgrade for the people who enjoy it! Good to see it has a native Linux build as wel…

getting better at this game requires fundamental lessons that are hard to communicate (like counter-strafing, how important it is to have good aim AND good movement). AKA level 1

and then there's the teamwork aspect (comms, strats, etc...) aka level 2

and then there's the game sense (counter-stratting, countering opponents bad habits) aka level 3

honestly the wall can be less intimidating if you work on your mechanics (level 1), which is the base of all of this

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