And what does a family do after arriving in Orlando without a car? Trains are cool but this doesn't seem viable, 32 departures daily, really?
Disney and Universal shuttles run to many major hotels in Orlando. Uber is always an option too.
The First Private High Speed Rail Line in 100 Years Will Link Miami and Orlando
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#12The article claims are that Brightline will send 32 trains daily, supposedly taking ~30 minutes less than the drive at up to 125 miles per hour, but only during part of the trip. It will travel up to 79 mph in urban areas and 110 mph in less-populated regions. According to the article, single riders will pay $158 round-trip for business class and $298 for first class, but families and groups will be able to buy four…
Because you don't have to deal with flight delays, TSA, cost of travel/uber/taxi to/from the airport?
I don't really think this route is going to be business travel heavy either way. This will almost certainly be a leisure route for people/families in Miami area who want to go to Disney World/Universal Studios.
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#13And what does a family do after arriving in Orlando without a car? Trains are cool but this doesn't seem viable, 32 departures daily, really?
Let the free market figure it out? Uber, Lyft, etc.
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#14This route has a higher chance of completion than the infamous SF-LA route.
it's completed. service is starting today.
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#15And what does a family do after arriving in Orlando without a car? Trains are cool but this doesn't seem viable, 32 departures daily, really?
Let the free market figure it out? Uber, Lyft, etc.
Yes I imagine lots of South Florida families leaving their car back in Miami and paying extra for train tickets so they can look forward to Ubering all around town.
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#16And what does a family do after arriving in Orlando without a car? Trains are cool but this doesn't seem viable, 32 departures daily, really?
Disney and Universal shuttles run to many major hotels in Orlando. Uber is always an option too.
Very few people stay exclusively within the Disney-verse the entire trip, for every meal. I-Drive, Sea World, Convention Center. And no, Disney does not run shuttles from Universal's hotels, nor vice versa.
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#17And what does a family do after arriving in Orlando without a car? Trains are cool but this doesn't seem viable, 32 departures daily, really?
I mean how many cars are used solely to drive from the airport and then sit in a hotel parking lot for the next week only to be driven back to the airport. 50% seems a conservative number considering that resorts like Disney world have their own transit systems.
There are plenty of attractions outside of Disney or Universal. I'd guess no more than 10% of rented cars have zero activity.
Regardless... these are families who live in South Florida. Cost of driving is a tank of gas each way. Can drive right up to the hotel's front door, no Uber. Can visit both Disney and Universal. Mom or Dad can easily go to convention while kids go to parks, etc.
It's a very rare confluence when paying more and giving up the freedom of a car makes much sense.
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#18And what does a family do after arriving in Orlando without a car? Trains are cool but this doesn't seem viable, 32 departures daily, really?
According to the University of Washington report, high speed rail is in competition with metro-to-metro air travel, which also involves arriving without a car. I don’t know how this particular route rates on that metric, but I do remember that it was one of the routes described in the report.
Edit: A quick web search revealed 18 flights from Miami to Orlando tomorrow. That’s presumably 36 flights including the return. 32 trains is inline with the demand, and is almost certain to be a more pleasant trip—quieter, no TSA, smoother, more space. At 30 min, it’s also more than twice as fast as flying.
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#19And what does a family do after arriving in Orlando without a car? Trains are cool but this doesn't seem viable, 32 departures daily, really?
Orlando Airport served 50 million passengers last year - who also arrived without a car. I don't see why it's suddenly a problem for train passengers.
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#20And what does a family do after arriving in Orlando without a car? Trains are cool but this doesn't seem viable, 32 departures daily, really?
Orlando Airport served 50 million passengers last year - who also arrived without a car. I don't see why it's suddenly a problem for train passengers.
because this train serves families from South Florida, who can easily drive door-to-door in about the same amount of time, unlike, say, a family from Chicago (which is likely to rent a car upon arriving).