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‘Mini-bombs’ blowing up the elbows of baseball’s top pitchers

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We have this weird system where if you aren't good enough to become a doctor purely on academics we will also consider how good you are at baseball. It's quite insane on its face but it's how lots of midwits end up with "advanced" degrees. Those dad's are probably trying to make that happen.

You surely also have to pass the required classes and attend medical school, though right?

You know what you call a doctor who got C's? A doctor.

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Is this a new thing? When was the pitch clock introduced? The article doesn't say.

Sounds very similar to the knees and other parts of cricket fast bowlers. They get up to top sprinting speed then come to an immediate halt at the crease to deliver the ball at 90+ mph while keeping their arm straight, like a human trebuchet.

Only one pace bowler in the history of the game seems to have cracked it, James Anderson, now 41yo and still playing, though he bowls closer to the 82-85mph mark.

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I mean, if you look at a slow-mo of any pro pitching, you'll have no questions why their elbows are getting messed up. While the speeds they achieve are an impressive feat, the amount of torque and the way it applies to the elbow is just insane. Everyone familiar with ballet for example knows that the dancers slowly but surely destroy their bodies for their art. The question we need to ask is if we want baseball to b…

This is almost universally true for any professional sport. Ultimately, it's personal preference, and the people at the top are committed to fighting to get to the top anyway.

If destroying your body is an acceptable tactic I'm not sure what the fuss about doping is about.

Re: ‘Mini-bombs’ blowing up the elbows of baseball’s top pitchers

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Is this a new thing? When was the pitch clock introduced? The article doesn't say. Sounds very similar to the knees and other parts of cricket fast bowlers. They get up to top sprinting speed then come to an immediate halt at the crease to deliver the ball at 90+ mph while keeping their arm straight, like a human trebuchet. Only one pace bowler in the history of the game seems to have cracked it, James Anderson, now…

It is new and was introduced this season.

Re: ‘Mini-bombs’ blowing up the elbows of baseball’s top pitchers

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Is this a new thing? When was the pitch clock introduced? The article doesn't say. Sounds very similar to the knees and other parts of cricket fast bowlers. They get up to top sprinting speed then come to an immediate halt at the crease to deliver the ball at 90+ mph while keeping their arm straight, like a human trebuchet. Only one pace bowler in the history of the game seems to have cracked it, James Anderson, now…

In a similar vein, wicket keepers have messed up bent fingers keeping for fast bowlers. At least MS Dhoni has this.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is almost universally true for any professional sport. Ultimately, it's personal preference, and the people at the top are committed to fighting to get to the top anyway.

If destroying your body is an acceptable tactic I'm not sure what the fuss about doping is about.

There is doping and there is doping. I don't see why athletes over say 30 can't do some mild oral steroids to bring them back to the testosterone levels of a 25 year old. Would help with recovery and probably lessen the severity of injury.

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You surely also have to pass the required classes and attend medical school, though right?

You know what you call a doctor who got C's? A doctor.

OK, but it's not like there's a section on the USMLE that says "by the way, how fast is your fastball? how many 3s can you make in a minute? what's your mile time?". The argument that being an athlete makes it significantly easier to become a doctor is weird, because getting into a good undergraduate institution is not the main hurdle to becoming a doctor.

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If destroying your body is an acceptable tactic I'm not sure what the fuss about doping is about.

There is doping and there is doping. I don't see why athletes over say 30 can't do some mild oral steroids to bring them back to the testosterone levels of a 25 year old. Would help with recovery and probably lessen the severity of injury.

>I don't see why athletes over say 30 can't do some mild oral steroids

Because you've never met an athlete, I guess. None of them would stop at "mild".

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I mean, if you look at a slow-mo of any pro pitching, you'll have no questions why their elbows are getting messed up. While the speeds they achieve are an impressive feat, the amount of torque and the way it applies to the elbow is just insane. Everyone familiar with ballet for example knows that the dancers slowly but surely destroy their bodies for their art. The question we need to ask is if we want baseball to b…

Sometimes my arm hurts just replicating some of their pitches in slow motion. I have a long held belief that the most talented pitchers of all time never made it to pro ball for exactly this reason. A less commonly acknowledged attribute is being enough of a genetic freak that one's arm doesn't slag out.

Or could it be that part of talent as sportsman is to have genes/body that is at extreme of the curve. There is talent to be able to throw one ball, but entirely an other talent to be able to keep throwing nearly as good balls. And later has much more value in professional setting.

Re: ‘Mini-bombs’ blowing up the elbows of baseball’s top pitchers

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is almost universally true for any professional sport. Ultimately, it's personal preference, and the people at the top are committed to fighting to get to the top anyway.

If destroying your body is an acceptable tactic I'm not sure what the fuss about doping is about.

I wouldn’t compare these. While both are bad and should be addressed, there’s a difference between “moving like this repeatedly for 20 years might cause mobility issues” and “injecting this might cause a heart attack”.
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