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Wireless electrical–molecular quantum signalling for cancer cell apoptosis

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Re: Wireless electrical–molecular quantum signalling for cancer cell apoptosis

#12

This, if true, is fascinating and more than a little scary. I'm imagining a situation where someone can somehow send the apoptosis signal to every cell in my body.

You can connect a ~3-10V battery to yourself, which may increase an electrostatic field and deflect the incoming signal.

Re: Wireless electrical–molecular quantum signalling for cancer cell apoptosis

#13

The fun thing about biology is that if there can be something built by a true omniscient creator, then biology is the closest thing to it. All of reality and all of physics is used. It is simply what works no matter how arcane or difficult to understand the concept and mechanisms behind it is. Like all engineering projects there are still physical constrains of course but there is no limit on the technology allowed.…

The way I like to think of it is that life, most broadly and abstractly conceived, falls like water through the space of possibilities afforded by nature, and there is no limit to how complex that "shape" can be (where "shape" is something in a space of possible combinations of forms, mechanisms, tools that are simultaneously used by one organism, a search space of possible combinations rather than a literal shape).

And whatever "intelligence" it would take to consciously think from first principles to those kinds of shapes, well, there's no upper limit to the possible sophistication that might be required to manually get there. But nature gets there blindly, and uses every possible thing.

Re: Wireless electrical–molecular quantum signalling for cancer cell apoptosis

#14

The fun thing about biology is that if there can be something built by a true omniscient creator, then biology is the closest thing to it. All of reality and all of physics is used. It is simply what works no matter how arcane or difficult to understand the concept and mechanisms behind it is. Like all engineering projects there are still physical constrains of course but there is no limit on the technology allowed.…

> Like all engineering projects there are still physical constrains of course but there is no limit on the technology allowed

Except having to work from a legacy codebase via incremental changes. No way for evolution to explore silicon based life when it kicked off with carbon.

Re: Wireless electrical–molecular quantum signalling for cancer cell apoptosis

#15

The fun thing about biology is that if there can be something built by a true omniscient creator, then biology is the closest thing to it. All of reality and all of physics is used. It is simply what works no matter how arcane or difficult to understand the concept and mechanisms behind it is. Like all engineering projects there are still physical constrains of course but there is no limit on the technology allowed.…

> Like all engineering projects there are still physical constrains of course but there is no limit on the technology allowed Except having to work from a legacy codebase via incremental changes. No way for evolution to explore silicon based life when it kicked off with carbon.

> No way for evolution to explore silicon based life when it kicked off with carbon.

Oh, I don't know. Isn't that what we're for?

Re: Wireless electrical–molecular quantum signalling for cancer cell apoptosis

#17
post #12

This, if true, is fascinating and more than a little scary. I'm imagining a situation where someone can somehow send the apoptosis signal to every cell in my body.

You can connect a ~3-10V battery to yourself, which may increase an electrostatic field and deflect the incoming signal.

Thanks. My tongue is not happy.

Re: Wireless electrical–molecular quantum signalling for cancer cell apoptosis

#18
post #12

This, if true, is fascinating and more than a little scary. I'm imagining a situation where someone can somehow send the apoptosis signal to every cell in my body.

You can connect a ~3-10V battery to yourself, which may increase an electrostatic field and deflect the incoming signal.

wait, tinfoil hats were actually working?

Re: Wireless electrical–molecular quantum signalling for cancer cell apoptosis

#19

This, if true, is fascinating and more than a little scary. I'm imagining a situation where someone can somehow send the apoptosis signal to every cell in my body.

In a world of overblown research with hype-y titles, this really takes the cake. I wouldn't get too excited. :P

Re: Wireless electrical–molecular quantum signalling for cancer cell apoptosis

#20

This, if true, is fascinating and more than a little scary. I'm imagining a situation where someone can somehow send the apoptosis signal to every cell in my body.

still cheaper and easier to just use a gun I'm guessing
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