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Marc Benioff: “I don’t work well in an office”

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Re: Marc Benioff: “I don’t work well in an office”

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Remote is ok if your personality doesn't mesh with an office. And you are the CEO. This should do wonders for feeling of "ohana" at salesforce.

I think more remote is inevitable. Think of how much time is stolen from you in a daily commute. Remote is better for the environment too.

Re: Marc Benioff: “I don’t work well in an office”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Read the article. It's explained there. A CEO traveling around to meet customers isn't a bad thing. In addition, he's the co-CEO and probably left day to day operations to the real CEO.

So is he either a figure head that can work remotely because he doesn’t matter, or is he doing “real work” and it turns out that working remotely does work? Execs like to paint working remotely as something that is wasteful and so the common employee shouldn’t be allowed to do so, while simultaneously extolling the virtues of their remote work. It’s reminiscent of the time I worked at one company and the chairman of…

Just read the article. He doesn't like to work from the office because he said he prefers to be on the road meeting customers.

Meanwhile, the brand of WFH HN folks want is to not leave the house and interact with real humans in person.

The only reason I said "co-ceo" is because I was responding to someone who, for whatever reason, thinks a multi-billion public company shouldn't have its CEO talk to customers.

Re: Marc Benioff: “I don’t work well in an office”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So is he either a figure head that can work remotely because he doesn’t matter, or is he doing “real work” and it turns out that working remotely does work? Execs like to paint working remotely as something that is wasteful and so the common employee shouldn’t be allowed to do so, while simultaneously extolling the virtues of their remote work. It’s reminiscent of the time I worked at one company and the chairman of…

Just read the article. He doesn't like to work from the office because he said he prefers to be on the road meeting customers. Meanwhile, the brand of WFH HN folks want is to not leave the house and interact with real humans in person. The only reason I said "co-ceo" is because I was responding to someone who, for whatever reason, thinks a multi-billion public company shouldn't have its CEO talk to customers.

I agree with you, people are twisting your words and setting up a strawman.

Re: Marc Benioff: “I don’t work well in an office”

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While true, it does highlight the fact that white collar jobs are diverse, and not all of them require one to be in the office. In fact, most of probably do not.

If your job is to meet and talk to customers, then yea, it isn't required to be in the office. In this case, you're not WFH. You're actually WFWCA (where ever customers are).

"customer facing" is a common term for this

Re: Marc Benioff: “I don’t work well in an office”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So is he either a figure head that can work remotely because he doesn’t matter, or is he doing “real work” and it turns out that working remotely does work? Execs like to paint working remotely as something that is wasteful and so the common employee shouldn’t be allowed to do so, while simultaneously extolling the virtues of their remote work. It’s reminiscent of the time I worked at one company and the chairman of…

Just read the article. He doesn't like to work from the office because he said he prefers to be on the road meeting customers. Meanwhile, the brand of WFH HN folks want is to not leave the house and interact with real humans in person. The only reason I said "co-ceo" is because I was responding to someone who, for whatever reason, thinks a multi-billion public company shouldn't have its CEO talk to customers.

I think that proves a point that some jobs can be done outside of the office, so why not have people work where they prefer? For this CEO it's on the road. For a lot of people it's at home. For a lot of people it's both.

Re: Marc Benioff: “I don’t work well in an office”

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Eh, sounds like the title is possibly either poor communication or a comment cherry-picked for the purpose of being provocative. He seems to have some nuance and flexibility on the issue that some people lack.

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Re: Marc Benioff: “I don’t work well in an office”

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Remote is ok if your personality doesn't mesh with an office. And you are the CEO. This should do wonders for feeling of "ohana" at salesforce.

I think more remote is inevitable. Think of how much time is stolen from you in a daily commute. Remote is better for the environment too.

It is, but companies are too stubborn.

Re: Marc Benioff: “I don’t work well in an office”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think more remote is inevitable. Think of how much time is stolen from you in a daily commute. Remote is better for the environment too.

It is, but companies are too stubborn.

It all comes down to hiring the right people. The problem with remote is many companies hire the wrong people so they end up not doing the right thing. Then all of the people who are good get punished.

Re: Marc Benioff: “I don’t work well in an office”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So is he either a figure head that can work remotely because he doesn’t matter, or is he doing “real work” and it turns out that working remotely does work? Execs like to paint working remotely as something that is wasteful and so the common employee shouldn’t be allowed to do so, while simultaneously extolling the virtues of their remote work. It’s reminiscent of the time I worked at one company and the chairman of…

Just read the article. He doesn't like to work from the office because he said he prefers to be on the road meeting customers. Meanwhile, the brand of WFH HN folks want is to not leave the house and interact with real humans in person. The only reason I said "co-ceo" is because I was responding to someone who, for whatever reason, thinks a multi-billion public company shouldn't have its CEO talk to customers.

That’s odd because the the brand of WFH that most people I’ve met want is identical to what they do in the office sans the commute. That being that they hop onto a zoom meeting with people who are in other physical locations or they are working independently and the office is just a distraction.

Another commenter mentioned that people were setting up a straw man against your words but I can’t agree. You keep implying that it’s rational for c levels to be working remote and then implying that regular employees only want wfh because they are just anti social.

Your comments are heavily biased with one viewpoint and I heartily disagree with it

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