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French regulators order Apple to halt sales of the iPhone 12

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Re: French regulators order Apple to halt sales of the iPhone 12

#11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The phone doesn't meet the regulations which means it can't be sold. Whether they're good regulations or not is another matter.

I wonder why it took them 3 years to find out, I thought these radiation tests are pretty basic these days due to cancer scares some decade and half (?) ago. I think gsmarena publishes similar values in their summary pages, but maybe its just copy paste from release material.

Yea this should have been acted on faster. I wish we had more of this data easily available for everything. Ear buds are directly next to our heads.

Re: French regulators order Apple to halt sales of the iPhone 12

#15

Apples no longer sells the iPhone 12 (disappeared from their website a few days ago) but what phone technology is the iPhone SE now?

I have an iPhone SE that's (apparently) 2nd generation 2020 - same year as iPhone 12.

I'm a bit worried now.

Re: French regulators order Apple to halt sales of the iPhone 12

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post #3

> testing found that the model emits more electromagnetic waves susceptible to be absorbed by the body than permitted SMH, they're talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-ionizing_radiation Next they'll issue an order to halt sunrise and the subsequent 1000W/m^2 of electromagnetic radiation

The phone doesn't meet the regulations which means it can't be sold. Whether they're good regulations or not is another matter.

I think parent is questioning the premise of said regulations.

Re: French regulators order Apple to halt sales of the iPhone 12

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post #3

> testing found that the model emits more electromagnetic waves susceptible to be absorbed by the body than permitted SMH, they're talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-ionizing_radiation Next they'll issue an order to halt sunrise and the subsequent 1000W/m^2 of electromagnetic radiation

The phone doesn't meet the regulations which means it can't be sold. Whether they're good regulations or not is another matter.

It's perfectly fine to discuss if these are good regulations or not in this thread. Shame for down voting based on this.

Re: French regulators order Apple to halt sales of the iPhone 12

#19
When I was looking for a new smartphone a few years ago I stumbled across the SAR figures and the data set published by the German agency responsible for it.[^1] It was important to recognize that some older Xiaomi phones had higher figures than iPhones listed there. But more recent Xiaomis are even under 0.5, which grants them the “Blue Angel” designation by that agency. You can also download the CSV output. According to this data set, iPhones 12 aren’t much different from the other series. Perhaps different batches in France from different production locations?

[^1]: https://www.bfs.de/SiteGlobals/Forms/Suche/BfS/EN/SARsuche_F...

Re: French regulators order Apple to halt sales of the iPhone 12

#20

Apples no longer sells the iPhone 12 (disappeared from their website a few days ago) but what phone technology is the iPhone SE now?

I have an iPhone SE that's (apparently) 2nd generation 2020 - same year as iPhone 12. I'm a bit worried now.

The iphone SE (2020) has the body of an iphone 8 with the chip of an iphone 11

It's not related in anyway to the iphone 12, and was in fact released several months before it

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