I'm a bit lost, changing the timeline doesn't seem to correspond to the events or coverage of them. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
9/11 in Realtime
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#12If you want to get a handle on how the War on Terror started and how everybody felt about it, I highly recommend listening to some of the live radio shows from that morning, such as the Howard Stern show. You look back now and question how we could've let it get so out of hand, but watching people react to it in real time takes you right back to the emotions it triggered. I don't think I've ever felt that degree of c…
It seemed like overreactions to me at the time, and it seems like overreactions to me now.
I was 18 at the time and I was already old enough to know that you don't make big decisions when tired, angry, or stressed.
What's the point of checks and balances and the rule of law if they all go out of the window as soon as an adversary does something bad enough to make enough of us sufficiently angry? Those aren't laws and rules or balances (or values) if they get tossed aside simply because of a spike in anger or fear or both.
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#13If you want to get a handle on how the War on Terror started and how everybody felt about it, I highly recommend listening to some of the live radio shows from that morning, such as the Howard Stern show. You look back now and question how we could've let it get so out of hand, but watching people react to it in real time takes you right back to the emotions it triggered. I don't think I've ever felt that degree of c…
Well said.
I was a sophomore in high school at the time. Sometime in the late morning, after both towers had been hit and it was clear that it was a terrorist attack, all the classroom TVs were turned on and tuned to the news. I distinctly recall the palpable fear and fury. A fellow student said to me, in a fit of gallows humor, "Get your gun, son. We're going to war."
It did feel as though there was some legitimacy to Afghanistan (of course, even that ended up being folly), but Iraq, which didn't happen until the Spring of '03, always felt tenuous.
Of course, all of it turned out to be a catastrophe, most especially for Iraqis and Afghans.
My personal pet conspiracy theory is that the U.S. leadership realized that the U.S. homeland was not defensible against asymmetric attacks of this nature. They needed to create an external beacon for the jihadists–a theater in which the U.S. military would be the target and the aggressor, not soft targets. And so they chose Iraq, with its dormant sectarian divisions being a perfect cauldron to which those enemies would be drawn.
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#14That's incredible! What an amazing project.
The classic Macintosh desktop is also very well done. Does anyone know the source code for the desktop used?
I found the projects in the "About" open source notices section of the desktop. It uses:
- https://github.com/robbiebyrd/platinum
which itself is based on:
- https://github.com/ticky/classic-scrollbars
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#15I'm a bit lost, changing the timeline doesn't seem to correspond to the events or coverage of them. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
I think you need to "start it off" by pushing "Go" on the Controls window after you set a time. That seemed to then line everything up. Note that the Menu Bar time widget does not reflect the Timeline time tho!
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#16I'm a bit lost, changing the timeline doesn't seem to correspond to the events or coverage of them. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
Don't get it either. But setting a time and hitting "go" seems to adjust the streams to the right time. But it doesn't "tick" when playing for some reason.
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#17If you want to get a handle on how the War on Terror started and how everybody felt about it, I highly recommend listening to some of the live radio shows from that morning, such as the Howard Stern show. You look back now and question how we could've let it get so out of hand, but watching people react to it in real time takes you right back to the emotions it triggered. I don't think I've ever felt that degree of c…
That was the intended effect. This is the context: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda
War is strategic. But soldiers won't kill for strategic reasons. They will fight when given an ethical basis. The objective truth never provides this.
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#18I'm retired from American Airlines, September 9th,2001 we were vacationing with our children in Florida. I tried to talk my wife into staying an extra day and fly home on the 11th. Thankfully she talked me into going home on the 10th as planned.
We got home late from the airport and everybody slept in on the 11th except me. I was messing around in the garage when my wife hollers at me to come look at the tv. At first we couldn't figure out if it was real, then it sunk in. I called a co-worker who was on shift, he said everyone was in shock.
I started feeding tapes into my VCR, about eight of them. I've never watched them.
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#19Pretty cool. FYI The upper right clock seems off by 1 hour (using the time control seems to work or I don't understand how time works)
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#20If you want to get a handle on how the War on Terror started and how everybody felt about it, I highly recommend listening to some of the live radio shows from that morning, such as the Howard Stern show. You look back now and question how we could've let it get so out of hand, but watching people react to it in real time takes you right back to the emotions it triggered. I don't think I've ever felt that degree of c…
It seemed like overreactions to me at the time, and it seems like overreactions to me now. I was 18 at the time and I was already old enough to know that you don't make big decisions when tired, angry, or stressed. What's the point of checks and balances and the rule of law if they all go out of the window as soon as an adversary does something bad enough to make enough of us sufficiently angry? Those aren't laws and…
The reasons we engaged in those extensive Middle East campaigns were strategic, just like they have always been for hundreds of years.
The events of that day were (coincidentally) the perfect motivation for the campaigns.