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Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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I gave my old parents the latest hand-me-up laptop and installed ubutntu on it because of windows 11. The install process and default configuration is so user hostile to someone that "just needs to use chrome". My niece & nephew have only known ChromeOS/iOS/Android. They will never use windows until a college course requires some specific software, or they get a desk job. I think they will for sure eventually "learn…

> I get the feeling more and more that peak Windows is upon us.

Probably. But I don't think Microsoft cares. Just look at where Windows is in their org hierarchy; it's definitely not top dog anymore and it's not a "strategy" like it once was.

The days of Microsoft needing Windows to make money are behind us, that's for sure. Peak Windows is probably correct, but that fact is not going to usher in Microsoft's demise.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Looks like nothing much has changed on Microsoft's end. I posted this 2 years ago on HN[1] about how Microsoft goes out of its way to manipulate users when they search for "Firefox" on Bing using Edge: > Tangentially related, but I recently spun up a Windows VM and used Edge to search Bing for "Firefox" and this is result I got[2]. > It's a giant banner that says, "You're already browsing in Microsoft Edge. Keep usin…

They really need to fire whoever keeps ramming non-sequitur rewards stuff into the windows product.

I have still don't understand what the rewards are for, despite having spent inordinate amount of time removing them from my windows machines, but it's bizarre that some product manager gets to piss a convoluted frequent flier miles scheme all over microsoft's premier product. That's akin to Ferrari covering their very exclusive cars with promo stickers hawking those ferrari licensed asus laptops.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Microsoft only continue to make Windows desktop because businesses "need it", and it's a gateway to sell people azure and office. Eventually they will open source as much of it as they can, or rather, build a flavour of windows that is Linux and essentially distribute binaries for the directx stuff and other things they're not willing to fully release the code on.

mark my words, Windows isn't dying a natural death, it's parent is suffocating it in its sleep as a mercy killing.. mercy from having to support it forever

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Better than Google constantly asking me to switch to Chrome on google.com when I'm in Edge.

Is it, though? You can ignore that stuff and keep going. You cannot get around MS forcing links from the OS search, Outlook, etc. to open in Edge and nothing else.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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post #7

I gave my old parents the latest hand-me-up laptop and installed ubutntu on it because of windows 11. The install process and default configuration is so user hostile to someone that "just needs to use chrome". My niece & nephew have only known ChromeOS/iOS/Android. They will never use windows until a college course requires some specific software, or they get a desk job. I think they will for sure eventually "learn…

> I get the feeling more and more that peak Windows is upon us.

If only. I remember people saying the same when Vista came out.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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post #7

I gave my old parents the latest hand-me-up laptop and installed ubutntu on it because of windows 11. The install process and default configuration is so user hostile to someone that "just needs to use chrome". My niece & nephew have only known ChromeOS/iOS/Android. They will never use windows until a college course requires some specific software, or they get a desk job. I think they will for sure eventually "learn…

Ubuntu kinda sucks now too. "Sign up for an account" is part of the install flow just like Windows.

Fedora is my default "easy" Linux install nowadays, the excessively corporate vibes I get from Ubuntu feel very wrong for a Linux distro.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Looks like nothing much has changed on Microsoft's end. I posted this 2 years ago on HN[1] about how Microsoft goes out of its way to manipulate users when they search for "Firefox" on Bing using Edge: > Tangentially related, but I recently spun up a Windows VM and used Edge to search Bing for "Firefox" and this is result I got[2]. > It's a giant banner that says, "You're already browsing in Microsoft Edge. Keep usin…

As with any person or business, you have to judge them not on what they say but on what they do.

You can assume that about 50% of whatever anyone says is either a straight-up lie, misleading, or bullshit.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Looks like nothing much has changed on Microsoft's end. I posted this 2 years ago on HN[1] about how Microsoft goes out of its way to manipulate users when they search for "Firefox" on Bing using Edge: > Tangentially related, but I recently spun up a Windows VM and used Edge to search Bing for "Firefox" and this is result I got[2]. > It's a giant banner that says, "You're already browsing in Microsoft Edge. Keep usin…

I installed Windows on a media PC (all other laptops are macOS or Linux) and it was like the entire OS is a web browser without ad block installed. Just endless nags, pop ups, notifications, ads in my start menu, ads in the login screen, holy shit. Who actually likes this? It’s insane!

> Who actually likes this?

Microsoft.

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