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Re: Famed animator Hayao Miyazaki might not be done making films, says Ghibli exec

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Post by savanaly » Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 5:53 AM UTC

yladiz wrote: post #7

slackfan wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) "boomer" is a pretty hatefull slur these days 2) baby boomers are the generation born post post-1945 3) Miyazaki-san was born in 1941.

> "boomer" is a pretty hatefull slur these days What? It's absolutely not as insulting as any number of terms used against people of color, people with disabilities, women, minorities (the list can go on), and saying it's a hateful slur starts to put it in the same ballpark as those, which is very disingenuous. It's also not even that true; "ok boomer" is often used ironically within a group of friends these days, an…

It’s not a misery contest. I wouldn’t use the word either and concur it’s hateful.

Re: Famed animator Hayao Miyazaki might not be done making films, says Ghibli exec

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Post by ranguna » Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 9:57 AM UTC

yladiz wrote: post #7

slackfan wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) "boomer" is a pretty hatefull slur these days 2) baby boomers are the generation born post post-1945 3) Miyazaki-san was born in 1941.

> "boomer" is a pretty hatefull slur these days What? It's absolutely not as insulting as any number of terms used against people of color, people with disabilities, women, minorities (the list can go on), and saying it's a hateful slur starts to put it in the same ballpark as those, which is very disingenuous. It's also not even that true; "ok boomer" is often used ironically within a group of friends these days, an…

It's generally used as a synomim of "tech illiterate". But personally, just because that's the case, I don't think we should stop using it when referring the original meaning of the word.

Re: Famed animator Hayao Miyazaki might not be done making films, says Ghibli exec

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Post by toyg » Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 10:25 AM UTC

slackfan wrote: post #6

toyg wrote: post #5

Famed boomer might not be done making what made him successful, says person who benefits from such success. As wonderful as it is, to have "old goatyao" still churning out stories, it is disappointing that Ghibli cannot seem to find a new way forward.

1) "boomer" is a pretty hatefull slur these days 2) baby boomers are the generation born post post-1945 3) Miyazaki-san was born in 1941.

Miyazaki is very much a Japanese postwar boomer, 3 or 4 years really make no difference. He went through the reconstruction period and the following building bubble, which deeply shaped his relationship with nature (and loss thereof). He grew up with the work of Tezuka Osamu. His work ethic is classic death-march postwar Japanese, graduated in the '60s and went through a traditional career at Toei. Ghibli was founded in 1985, when Japan was still riding the wave of postwar economic growth and the yen were flowing to all sorts of new businesses. He struggled to establish successors in the classic mold of postwar-boomer family-run businesses.

He is a boomer, there is no question about it. Whether you find that term offensive is not here nor there.

Re: Famed animator Hayao Miyazaki might not be done making films, says Ghibli exec

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Post by toyg » Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 10:29 AM UTC

hooverd wrote: post #4

jrajav wrote: post #2

Miyazaki has announced his retirement so many times by now over several decades that this has to be a running joke that everyone warmly entertains.

Miyazaki realized he would have to spend time with his son. /s

His son by now is like Prince/King Charles... He's spent most of his life in the shadow of a parent who was supposed to eventually hand him the reigns, but never really trusted him enough to actually do it.

Re: Famed animator Hayao Miyazaki might not be done making films, says Ghibli exec

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Post by BookhouseGames » Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 11:06 AM UTC

This is my surprised face.

Re: Famed animator Hayao Miyazaki might not be done making films, says Ghibli exec

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Post by yladiz » Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 1:12 PM UTC

savanaly wrote: post #11

yladiz wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "boomer" is a pretty hatefull slur these days What? It's absolutely not as insulting as any number of terms used against people of color, people with disabilities, women, minorities (the list can go on), and saying it's a hateful slur starts to put it in the same ballpark as those, which is very disingenuous. It's also not even that true; "ok boomer" is often used ironically within a group of friends these days, an…

It’s not a misery contest. I wouldn’t use the word either and concur it’s hateful.

It's not about it being a contest, and while hateful words are hateful no matter how "badly hateful" they are, it's also not fair to just lump all words used in a hateful way together because it equates words legitimately used to demean, dehumanize, etc. a group of people with ones that are at worst moderately hateful, like boomer, which is what my point is. Basically, a hateful slur is the N-word, boomer is not the N-word, and equating them in any meaningful way belittles the legitimate hatefulness of the N-word. It's disingenuous to say that boomer is as bad at something like "bitch", but they're a lot closer.