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37signals Introduces "Once" - Buy software one time
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#12The headline makes it sound like a Gumroad clone (though Gumroad now has a memberships product). Should definitely be edited.
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#13Pretty vague announcement, I find it hard to believe 37 signals will stray too far from the SaaS cash cow they arguably helped to create with basecamp..
OTOH, the founders probably have enough cash now that they can comfortably launch side-projects that doesn’t require subscriptions.
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#14Sounds good, but I mean, it's just pros and cons with the SaaS model, or with the pay-once...
Before SaaS there used to be a massive pool of native apps, doing all kinds of different things... You indeed paid your license and lived with the product until the next major version, but there was little chance to just use something for a month or two, so the prices were higher.
With SaaS you do end up renting stuff all over the place, and never owning anything, but the prices are more affordable... Think about an AutoCAD license, that shit is privative for a hobbyist... With SaaS you can in fact afford something to begin with.
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#15My favourite licensing models for self-hosted software are perpetual fallback licenses. Jetbrains does this well and their description of it is: A perpetual fallback license is a license that allows you to use a specific version of software without an active subscription for it. The license also includes all bugfix updates, more specifically in X.Y.Z version all Z releases are included.
My gripe with the JetBrains license change is that the perpetual license is for a version that's already 12 months old when they have an aggressive release schedule that put's your perpetual license as a _large_ step backwards.
I say this as a personal subscriber to the JetBrains Toolbox. I'm unhappy about the mechanics of the fallback license, but I also find utility in paying the subscription for right now (really the last few years).
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Additionally, I'd wager a good majority of their paying customers had no idea the controversy was happening, or weren't going to change their entire office operating procedures because the owners may have some caustic opinions.
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#17We helped pioneer keeping you on the hook perpetually for a solution! Now we've extracted maximum value out of that we're going to offer an ever wilder idea! One big fat payment for the same thing you've spent years paying and subscribing to. Just one last attempt to extract every cent of good will out of a consumer before they truly cotton on. At least, that's my sour angle of it. As much as I want this 'model' agai…
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#18Pretty vague announcement, I find it hard to believe 37 signals will stray too far from the SaaS cash cow they arguably helped to create with basecamp..
OTOH, the founders probably have enough cash now that they can comfortably launch side-projects that doesn’t require subscriptions.
Right? That they pinoeered the current meta should be more indicative that they are ready to move from it than stay on it forever.
Good for them I guess, I do hope we see more custom artisan software out there and less VC SaaS milkcows
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#19We helped pioneer keeping you on the hook perpetually for a solution! Now we've extracted maximum value out of that we're going to offer an ever wilder idea! One big fat payment for the same thing you've spent years paying and subscribing to. Just one last attempt to extract every cent of good will out of a consumer before they truly cotton on. At least, that's my sour angle of it. As much as I want this 'model' agai…
I guess that's true lmao
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#20While IT depts might be keen to put the genie back in the bottle they may find their ‘clients’ are less keen on waiting months to years for their needs to be met. AWS sold as an insurgent into many organisations precisely because it meant you could stand up a service in minutes, not quarters.