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Re: Apology from Geeklist

#11
Wow, this scream-sexism-at-everything police is becoming very annoying. I do not believe that the video is offensive at all.

I do think the Geeklist founders came across as petty in their constant back and forth with the lady. But to be clear, that has nothing to do with the video being offensive. It isn't.

Re: Apology from Geeklist

#14

Wow, this scream-sexism-at-everything police is becoming very annoying. I do not believe that the video is offensive at all. I do think the Geeklist founders came across as petty in their constant back and forth with the lady. But to be clear, that has nothing to do with the video being offensive. It isn't.

Offensive is in the eye of the beholder. Plenty of people agree that it is offensive.

Re: Apology from Geeklist

#15
The lesson here is that defending a brand does not always mean getting defensive. Brand owners have to look at what is being attacked and decide how close it is to the core of the business. A t-shirt fashion shoot video is not the core of the Geeklist business model, so once it became a brand liability it needed to be cast off.

An example of a brand attack that DID call for a head-on approach was the iPhone 4 antenna issue. Those complaints directly attacked a core feature of one of Apple's core products. Apple needed to go on defense because they could not just cast off the iPhone 4 hardware design without very serious financial damage.

Brand owners also need to keep the personal and professional separate when their brand is under attack. Brands are created by a series of decisions. It is one or more of those decisions that are under attack, not the people who made them. In this case the issue was the decision to associate the Geeklist brand with this type of video. Decide whether or not that decision needs defending--don't mistake it for a personal attack.

Re: Apology from Geeklist

#17
post #5

I could care less about Geeklist but from a purely analytical perspective: this is so "how not to write an apology" that someone ought to take it apart and do an annotated version of it as a lesson to the community. It literally starts out in its first sentence by undermining itself. Incidentally, publicly threatening the job of someone who criticizes you (as a tit-for-tat for them "threatening your brand") is one of…

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Re: Apology from Geeklist

#19
Hm, I wonder if this will be deleted as well? The two submissions of the Storify article were:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3740378

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3739913

I'm a little concerned/confused as to why. If the apology is HN-appropriate content then I'm a little surprised that the reason for the apology isn't.

Re: Apology from Geeklist

#20
I am still surprised that a company like geeklist runs into such a trap[1]. Shouldn't they be knowing better? I mean, social networks are what they build, they should know the effect.

The whole internet was abuzz for a week about implied sexism and bad handling of women. But yet, they run into just the same hole. It doesn't even require to discuss the validity of the argument to see the problems in their handling: someone with high twitter reach complained about a questionable thing that they could easily drag in the trash bin (with a few phone calls). Was it even worth to pick that fight?

[1] Just to be clear: its a trap layed by themselves.

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