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Why Did a Drug Gang Kill 43 Students? Text Messages Hold Clues

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Re: Why Did a Drug Gang Kill 43 Students? Text Messages Hold Clues

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Post by hedora »

ChumpGPT wrote: post #3

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This is a direct consequence of US government policy:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/dec/08/mexico-war-on-d...

I picked a story from 2016, so you can read with the benefit of hindsight, but it’s been the same story since the 1970’s (and arguably since the tail end of the prohibition days, when the US made the Mexican government choose between destabilizing itself or not having anesthesia for its hospitals).

Since the US’s continuous morally-reprehensible actions created and then propped up Mexico’s narco-state for about a century, and people keep voting in the US politicians that perpetuate the cycle, I can only assume things are working as intended.

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Post by standardUser »

LorenzoGood wrote: post #4
ChumpGPT wrote: post #3

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I remember seeing a vice video where a cartel soldier said that every level of government in Mexico is paid with cartel money.

I don't know whose opinion I value less on the matter, a random soldier or Vice.

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Post by hx8 »

chrischen wrote: post #10
danielheath wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is giving the cartel that money?

Americans. But it’s more like the head-end of Americans paying cartels for drugs and in order to pacify the ass-end from complaining they, in collusion with Mexico, have to make it “look like” they are doing something about it.

Excuse me. Are you suggesting that rich individuals are subsidizing the importation of illegal drugs that are consumed by average Americans?

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Post by azinman2 »

standardUser wrote: post #12
LorenzoGood wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember seeing a vice video where a cartel soldier said that every level of government in Mexico is paid with cartel money.

I don't know whose opinion I value less on the matter, a random soldier or Vice.

Except it came out a few years ago Fox was on the payroll. We know it’s gone all the way to the presidency.

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Post by SenAnder »

hedora wrote: post #11
ChumpGPT wrote: post #3

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This is a direct consequence of US government policy: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/dec/08/mexico-war-on-d... I picked a story from 2016, so you can read with the benefit of hindsight, but it’s been the same story since the 1970’s (and arguably since the tail end of the prohibition days, when the US made the Mexican government choose between destabilizing itself or not having anesthesia for its hospitals). Si…

> This is a direct consequence of US government policy

Which policy do you mean? Not legalizing drugs? Because the US is no exception in that regard.

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Post by walterbell »

https://anarchonomicon.substack.com/p/reaper-drones-over-hou...

> The South and Central American drug war(s) is one of the most violent wars in modern history .. Over a million people have died in the conflict since 1970, and that’s not counting the over 50,000 Americans who die every year from opioid-related deaths, or the 20+ thousand American homicides every year, the majority of them in some way related to gangs that fund themselves off drug sales..

US intervention against the Mexican Cartels would be taking on organized forces that have been under arms longer than the Taliban, are better funded than Ukraine, have a population and territory bigger than Saddam had in Iraq, and some of whom, as in the case of the Los Zetas Cartel, are themselves former Special Forces trained by American Green Berets..

America has had a massive advantage in every war it’s fought in the past 100 years: America has always been fighting elsewhere .. America’s population, industry … They’ve all been safely 10,000 miles away across oceans from the enemy and pretty much untouchable .. A military intervention against the Cartels would instantly end that.

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Post by danielheath »

hx8 wrote: post #13
chrischen wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Americans. But it’s more like the head-end of Americans paying cartels for drugs and in order to pacify the ass-end from complaining they, in collusion with Mexico, have to make it “look like” they are doing something about it.

Excuse me. Are you suggesting that rich individuals are subsidizing the importation of illegal drugs that are consumed by average Americans?

… you know the CIA imported and sold drugs in the USA?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_traf...

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Post by heavyset_go »

SenAnder wrote: post #15
hedora wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a direct consequence of US government policy: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/dec/08/mexico-war-on-d... I picked a story from 2016, so you can read with the benefit of hindsight, but it’s been the same story since the 1970’s (and arguably since the tail end of the prohibition days, when the US made the Mexican government choose between destabilizing itself or not having anesthesia for its hospitals). Si…

> This is a direct consequence of US government policy Which policy do you mean? Not legalizing drugs? Because the US is no exception in that regard.

You're right, prohibition funds organized crime all over the world.

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Post by [deleted] »

walterbell wrote: post #17

https://anarchonomicon.substack.com/p/reaper-drones-over-hou... > The South and Central American drug war(s) is one of the most violent wars in modern history .. Over a million people have died in the conflict since 1970, and that’s not counting the over 50,000 Americans who die every year from opioid-related deaths, or the 20+ thousand American homicides every year, the majority of them in some way related to gangs…

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