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A History of the Amen Break: From the Winstons to Futurama and Om Unit

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Although the Amen Break is nearly omnipresent, I think the Futurama mention is misguided. The rhythm in Futurama is the same as in the song it's based on: Psyche Rock by Pierre Henry. That song was published two years before Amen Brother. Although the rhythm sounds very similar, Futurama's (or Pierre Henry's) precisely lacks Amen Break's characteristic syncopation on its fourth bar.

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If you're interested in more, this is a nice and short documentary (2014) on the Amen Break: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac

My first attempt to load the video was met with an ad so I killed the yt app on my phone. I’m assuming this is the one narrated by a fellow with a deep voice and an acetate record. Timing would be about right. If so, this is a phenomenal look at the evolution of its place in music that I also was going to link in this thread. Music history.

Deep voice person is Nate Harrison, you can also watch it on archive.org: https://archive.org/details/NateHarrisonCanIGetAnAmen

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A pleasant surprise to see Om Unit pop up on HN :-)

Amen Break is just one of dozens used in jungle/d&b mind.

Here's one of my favourite tracks under his Mahakala alias – The Exodus (2018)

[Track] https://youtu.be/DYKUU-AsHvM

[Discogs] https://www.discogs.com/release/12603789-Mahakala-The-Exodus...

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Although the Amen Break is nearly omnipresent, I think the Futurama mention is misguided. The rhythm in Futurama is the same as in the song it's based on: Psyche Rock by Pierre Henry. That song was published two years before Amen Brother. Although the rhythm sounds very similar, Futurama's (or Pierre Henry's) precisely lacks Amen Break's characteristic syncopation on its fourth bar.

> Although the Amen Break is nearly omnipresent

I thought that break-beat was not present last decade as much as it was between 1990-2010.

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Late 60s, early 70s had the best combination of technology & limitations to create some of the most memorable music. Go much earlier than that & everything sounds hollow. Too much later ( I'm looking at you, 1980s) and everything is polished & synthetic to phoniness.

Every generation seems to think the technical limitations of their era produced superior art; the previous generation was always too limited, and the following always have it too easy. They might be right for themselves, but it's clear the situation is much more subjective than the absolutes that get thrown around.

The 1980s gave us samplers that could only do a few seconds of audio, and entire genres were built on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJf9Jptq7VY

People who came up then probably feel the same way you do, but about samplers with no practical limits.

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Really recommend 12tone's music analysis (building the break up from the individual drum grooves) [0]. Their videos are always fantastic; it's an amazing level of musical analysis. That said, not everyone likes their style of presentation.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwOs4aM6upA

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If you're interested in more, this is a nice and short documentary (2014) on the Amen Break: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac

2004 :)

Wow, event the video on Youtube was from February 2006, must be one of the oldest videos there.

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The different examples really make the steady liquification of drum and bass over time clear. Yeah there's still a subgenre of really hard stuff but in the 90s it was all like that, just amen break over really dark metal/industrial kind of sounds. The melodic gap between Vic Acid and the Sub Focus remix is indicative, as dnb artists got older they got more classical training and started to focus on less harsh, more e…

> in the 90s it was all like that, just amen break over really dark metal/industrial kind of sounds

There was actually a whole scene from the start of the 90s that focussed on melodic and atmospheric jungle and dnb. Check out Good Looking Records. In fact even Metalheadz pushed some this sound a lot. I personally see that as a fundamental part of jungle and dnb from the get go.

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