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Farewell EC2-Classic, it’s been swell

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Re: Farewell EC2-Classic, it’s been swell

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So if I'm understanding correctly, all the classic instances were migrated to more modern types with no intervention from the account holder?

Did they suffer a reboot during that migration, or was it done via some live-migration process (it's hard to live-migrate off a virtualization platform that was never designed with that in mind!).

What about the original network setup? Is that still emulated, or might some customer applications have broken?

Re: Farewell EC2-Classic, it’s been swell

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I still remember when I worked at Serif and we needed web hosting for our new social media website that would be integrated into our scrapbooking desktop software. There were a lot of shiny new technologies around at the time (as there always are). One of them was Microsoft Silverlight, and we implemented its "Deep Zoom" into the website so our users could easily zoom around in the scrapbooks that got published and e…

I remember those days, there was no database layer at AWS so we used instances with Elastic Block store for durability.

Yeah, that was it! It was so confusing initially trying to figure out what should go in the EC2 instances' local disk storage, what should go into EBS, and what should go into S3. It all seems so obvious now of course...

Re: Farewell EC2-Classic, it’s been swell

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This is something Google Cloud should learn from. It doesn't matter if product XX still makes money or fits in your business model. There are people who rely on it. And they'll remember if the vendor kept it running trouble free for years. They'll also remember if it was arbitrarily shut down or the price was suddenly increased by 4x and they had to spend many man hours migrating to another option. (Google maps api?)…

That's a good point. But I am curious how special this Classic offering was, compared to what came after. Would migration have been hard?

It's not so much that EC2 Classic offered any features that were difficult to live without. It's just that migraine away from it means migrating, period. You need to move all of your systems, including any data stored on those systems (in instance store or EBS), to effectively a new data center. Migrating a live production environment can be a pain and/or cause downtime.

Re: Farewell EC2-Classic, it’s been swell

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So if I'm understanding correctly, all the classic instances were migrated to more modern types with no intervention from the account holder? Did they suffer a reboot during that migration, or was it done via some live-migration process (it's hard to live-migrate off a virtualization platform that was never designed with that in mind!). What about the original network setup? Is that still emulated, or might some cust…

The had to be restarted, but not only that, has to have their networks reconfigured.

But they gave people YEARS to do that, and tracked down every user to help them if necessary.

Re: Farewell EC2-Classic, it’s been swell

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> Ten years ago, during my 2013 keynote at re:Invent, I told you that we wanted to “support today’s workloads as well as tomorrow’s,” and our commitment to Classic is the best evidence of that. It’s not lost on me, the amount of work that goes into an effort like this — but it is exactly this type of work that builds trust, and I’m proud of the way it has been handled. To me, this embodies what it means to be customer obsessed. The EC2 team kept Classic running (and running well) until every instance was shut down or migrated.

This is why businesses trust AWS.

Re: Farewell EC2-Classic, it’s been swell

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Google Reader. Never forget.

I miss Google Search being good and useful and not covered in intrusive ads much more than I miss something easily replaced with local software or Feedly. Almost everything Google does outside of GCP, Maps, Search, and YouTube could evaporate for all I care. Google's problem is not that they cancel stuff, it's the everpresent need to grow revenue and embed annoying ads into more and more of everyone's daily lives. I'…

I started to use Kagi instead of google search. Since, it's difficult to get back on google, the results are so much worse.

Re: Farewell EC2-Classic, it’s been swell

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Reader. Never forget.

I miss Google Search being good and useful and not covered in intrusive ads much more than I miss something easily replaced with local software or Feedly. Almost everything Google does outside of GCP, Maps, Search, and YouTube could evaporate for all I care. Google's problem is not that they cancel stuff, it's the everpresent need to grow revenue and embed annoying ads into more and more of everyone's daily lives. I'…

It's not really the ads that killed Google search for me. it's more the over agressive minmaxed SEO that makes most of results garbage.

Re: Farewell EC2-Classic, it’s been swell

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So if I'm understanding correctly, all the classic instances were migrated to more modern types with no intervention from the account holder? Did they suffer a reboot during that migration, or was it done via some live-migration process (it's hard to live-migrate off a virtualization platform that was never designed with that in mind!). What about the original network setup? Is that still emulated, or might some cust…

It's not clear, but my interpretation is that they contacted every account holder, somehow convinced them to migrate (perhaps with discounts and/or threats of termination) and then shut down once everyone migrated.

Would be very interesting to learn how that was possible, it seems surprising to me that there wasn't even one instance that the owner forgot about or just was unwilling to do any work on.

It's possible that credit card expiration was the key, as that may have automatically disabled almost all forgotten accounts.

Re: Farewell EC2-Classic, it’s been swell

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> So, I wouldn’t blame you if you were wondering what makes an EC2 instance “Classic”. Put simply, it’s the network architecture. When we launched EC2 in 2006, it was one giant network of 10.2.0.0/8.

And they kept this running for a decade after people agreed there were much better options with an announced 2 year sunset period.

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