"researchforteachers dot org dot uk" sounds like it might be an interesting organization that I'd like to know more about, but the domain root is just a login mask. Does anyone have details on who is behind and what else they offer to the general public besides a scanned PDF of an interesting article?
Learning For Mastery (1968) [pdf]
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Re: Learning For Mastery (1968) [pdf]
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Treating the problems of education indeed transcends the school and actually requires a great deal of political will and power. "Education" must guide politics and have power over it. Isn't the problem that we are mixing education and politics in the first place? We should probably separate education and the state just as much as we separate church and state. (The touch of politics seldom enhances the quality of an…
I meant the needs of the education should guide "political" decisions. A simple example is that the education budget (percentage) should be in two digits!!
And I am saying that there shouldn't be an education item in the government's budget in the first place.
(Just to be clear, I'm all for giving poor people money, so they can spend it as they see fit. Be that education or food or entertainment etc. By contrast, rich people don't need government hand-outs.)
Re: Learning For Mastery (1968) [pdf]
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Treating the problems of education indeed transcends the school and actually requires a great deal of political will and power. "Education" must guide politics and have power over it. Isn't the problem that we are mixing education and politics in the first place? We should probably separate education and the state just as much as we separate church and state. (The touch of politics seldom enhances the quality of an…
If you look at everything from "Monicagate" (not the Clinton one!) to the recent moderator strike over AI-generated answers, StackOverflow is not as apolitical as you suggest? But to engage with your main point - I agree, and we can take Germany as an example here. During the Nazi period, everything was put in service of politics, so in math class you'd answer questions like "calculate how many extra hard-working Ger…
> If you look at everything from "Monicagate" (not the Clinton one!) to the recent moderator strike over AI-generated answers, StackOverflow is not as apolitical as you suggest?
Sure, and Wikipedia also has its own politics.
Yet, it's relatively easy to avoid both of them, if you want to.
It's hard to avoid the political pressures on government-run and/or government-funded education.
Re: Learning For Mastery (1968) [pdf]
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
I meant the needs of the education should guide "political" decisions. A simple example is that the education budget (percentage) should be in two digits!!
And I am saying that there shouldn't be an education item in the government's budget in the first place. (Just to be clear, I'm all for giving poor people money, so they can spend it as they see fit. Be that education or food or entertainment etc. By contrast, rich people don't need government hand-outs.)
Disassembling public education would have substantial societal externalities. If education is anything you want it to be, why not graduate from DraftKings Precocious Kids HIgh School?
Re: Learning For Mastery (1968) [pdf]
#15tl;dr if you provide each student with the appropriate kind and quality of instruction and the amount of time available for learning then the majority of students will achieve mastery.
I had two of my kids in a mastery school. The school didn't "do" mastery very, well, but it's a lot better than public school. Students learn different parts of a subject at different rates. By tuning the time the kids had to learn a sub-subject, they could fully master the subject, and at an accelerated pace compare to public school.
If I could get Khan-academy + peer socialization + baby sitting "in one room", I think that'd be ideal.
Re: Learning For Mastery (1968) [pdf]
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you look at everything from "Monicagate" (not the Clinton one!) to the recent moderator strike over AI-generated answers, StackOverflow is not as apolitical as you suggest? But to engage with your main point - I agree, and we can take Germany as an example here. During the Nazi period, everything was put in service of politics, so in math class you'd answer questions like "calculate how many extra hard-working Ger…
I teach at a German University and I have never in a decade perceived even the slightest scintilla of any student creating "social justice pressure" in any of my or the classes of my collegues. Whenever there was a social justice topic that made the waves, it was typically about some prof who legitimately acted like full blown asshole and thought everybody else has to put up with their ego — if anything disrupted edu…
> As I am working at a liberal art school you would think I probably have witnessed the worst already, but I didn't
There are these two young fish swimming along and they happen to meet an older fish swimming the other way, who nods at them and says “Morning, boys. How’s the water?” And the two young fish swim on for a bit, and then eventually one of them looks over at the other and goes “What the hell is water?”
Re: Learning For Mastery (1968) [pdf]
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
And I am saying that there shouldn't be an education item in the government's budget in the first place. (Just to be clear, I'm all for giving poor people money, so they can spend it as they see fit. Be that education or food or entertainment etc. By contrast, rich people don't need government hand-outs.)
Disassembling public education would have substantial societal externalities. If education is anything you want it to be, why not graduate from DraftKings Precocious Kids HIgh School?
Sorry, I don't understand the second sentence.
Yes, I agree that public education has substantial costs. Both direct costs to the victims and societal externalities. Disassembling the monster would hopefully stop some of them.
Re: Learning For Mastery (1968) [pdf]
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Disassembling public education would have substantial societal externalities. If education is anything you want it to be, why not graduate from DraftKings Precocious Kids HIgh School?
Sorry, I don't understand the second sentence. Yes, I agree that public education has substantial costs. Both direct costs to the victims and societal externalities. Disassembling the monster would hopefully stop some of them.
So if up to an individual, what do you think they would choose for their education if there were no mandates agreed upon by their government. DraftKings is a gambling titan that could offer a very profitable option.
Re: Learning For Mastery (1968) [pdf]
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry, I don't understand the second sentence. Yes, I agree that public education has substantial costs. Both direct costs to the victims and societal externalities. Disassembling the monster would hopefully stop some of them.
So if up to an individual, what do you think they would choose for their education if there were no mandates agreed upon by their government. DraftKings is a gambling titan that could offer a very profitable option.
I do not at all think that, if government wasn't in the business of setting those standards, the standards would turn out lower.
Reputation would follow the institutions, and graduating from an institution that set lows standards wouldn't have any signalling power to prospective employers, so students wouldn't want to enroll there.
What you actually see in countries that have both a private and public education system is that the private institutions compete on the grounds of who sets the highest standards, not on who offers the most riskless opportunity to students to get the degree, irrespective of how low an effort they put in or how incapable they are.
If you're talking of a huge number of small institutions in combination with high mobility, then maybe reputation at the level of the individual institution wouldn't do the trick, but you would probably see certification and quality assurance agencies pop up to establish brands and enforce standards around them.
Re: Learning For Mastery (1968) [pdf]
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Treating the problems of education indeed transcends the school and actually requires a great deal of political will and power. "Education" must guide politics and have power over it. Isn't the problem that we are mixing education and politics in the first place? We should probably separate education and the state just as much as we separate church and state. (The touch of politics seldom enhances the quality of an…
I meant the needs of the education should guide "political" decisions. A simple example is that the education budget (percentage) should be in two digits!!
Iirc , the stats show the more school budget the worse education.
If you put "free" money into something the parasites will gather. Systems exist to extend themselves, not yo provide the service for which they were created (systemantics).