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Self-driving cars less likely to detect children and people of color

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Re: Self-driving cars less likely to detect children and people of color

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>This is due to bias in open-source AI, on which self-driving cars rely, researchers say. Or they are simply less visible.

What's "less visible" to the human eye shouldn't be used to lower our expectations of what can be visible to a machine.

Don't let physics get in the way of your ideals.

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>This is due to bias in open-source AI, on which self-driving cars rely, researchers say. Or they are simply less visible.

> This is due to bias in open-source AI, on which self-driving cars rely, researchers say. The second line in the article

How do they know?

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Anyone know how likely it is that this is the result of imbalanced training data? You have fewer dark-skinned people and children in the training data, you end up with a model less-skilled at detecting those people.

You'd have to compare the machine's performance to real human performance. I suspect humans also have an uneven detection rate between those categories.

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It's strange that the paper doesn't seem to include any of the actual data, but it is available on their github page https://github.com/FairnessResearch/Fairness-Testing-of-Auto...

From what I can see, a couple of the detectors used really seem shit overall, making the combined data of questionable value.

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It won't be long till they won't just be detecting people, by identifying specifically which people they are. Think of the data! All those cars logging time/location of all those people. (which, of course, will only be used for good and the occasional targeted ad)

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It won't be long till they won't just be detecting people, by identifying specifically which people they are. Think of the data! All those cars logging time/location of all those people. (which, of course, will only be used for good and the occasional targeted ad)

Urgh

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It won't be long till they won't just be detecting people, by identifying specifically which people they are. Think of the data! All those cars logging time/location of all those people. (which, of course, will only be used for good and the occasional targeted ad)

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> While the study did not use the exact software companies like Tesla use to power self-driving cars because they are confidential, the software systems used for the study are based on the same open-source AI those companies use, according to Zhang.

I was under the impression that commercial self-driving software was deeply proprietary and confidential, and there is no way to know that this study will generalize if run on state of the art detectors. Tesla and Cruise are name-checked in the article - how do we know this isn’t a problem they have worked extensively on and made great improvements to, relative to the open source components?

Feels like a case of outrage-for-clicks.

Re: Self-driving cars less likely to detect children and people of color

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is due to bias in open-source AI, on which self-driving cars rely, researchers say. The second line in the article

How do they know?

Because that is the answer to every single question.
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