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Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to work on AI

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Re: Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to work on AI

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Paywalled so I will not attempt to read but the first little bit... Just makes me imagine what it must be like to be one of these elite engineer types at insanely luxurious parties talking to "experts" all day long and I have to take a hard look in the mirror and wonder why my life is such ... s***.

Re: Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to work on AI

#14

I have to laugh at an unrecognized Sergey Brin talking to stall for time at an AI hackathon while the audience waits for the real speaker, Grimes. That's a very enjoyable picture.

I mean are these people anything more than influencers in the AI world?

Re: Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to work on AI

#15

the first niche research paper I found looking recently, on a niche topic.. was "AI for reading research papers" that looked for nouns associated with this niche, and then the context, and did that for thousands of publications. That writeup was released publicly in 2018. If you think a founder of Google does not have tools like that on Day0, you might be in for some surprises in a year.

Are they able to convert research papers to HTML yet?

Re: Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to work on AI

#16

I have to laugh at an unrecognized Sergey Brin talking to stall for time at an AI hackathon while the audience waits for the real speaker, Grimes. That's a very enjoyable picture.

A googler told me how Sergey would sit down at any table in the cafeteria. New hires would ask him what he did at the company.

I used to ride a contractor shuttle to NASA’s JSC. Pair of new hires and a colorfully dressed woman being escorted on the bus. Upon us getting off, one new hire looked around and said “I wonder if we’ll see any astronauts.” The woman was Sally Ride.

Re: Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to work on AI

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Google was never the same after Sergey left. With him, all employees, execs, investors shared the original credos of organizing the world's information.

And after him, it became like any corporation, with everyone seeking to gain as much personal wealth as they could. The dream was dead.

I saw this firsthand.

Re: Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to work on AI

#18

This does make for good media, but does anyone believe that adding one more cook to the kitchen at Google is going to measurably change their trajectory in this area?

Maybe not, but management does have outsized effects on culture which _can_ be a game-changer for trajectory.

Re: Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to work on AI

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Google was never the same after Sergey left. With him, all employees, execs, investors shared the original credos of organizing the world's information. And after him, it became like any corporation, with everyone seeking to gain as much personal wealth as they could. The dream was dead. I saw this firsthand.

How much was Eric Schmidt a factor in the culture?

Ive read that a lot of the early days of Google being the Google we used to love were down to Schmidt.

We dont hear much about him, so I’ve always wondered.

Schmidt succeeded with Google where John Scully failed Apple!

Re: Google co-founder Sergey Brin on leaving retirement to work on AI

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By retiring early, he sorta let Google, this still immature organization, get completely steamrolled by the board. I used to work there and the culture shifted rapidly upon his departure.

Could you elaborate on the changes?

First was the elimination of TGIF, a weekly meeting where Larry and Sergei would come out in the flesh and answer some of the most politically sensitive questions you could imagine right there at 1600 Amphitheatre Pkwy, second was the rule of CFO Ruth Porat who eliminated many bets and turned Google into a lean mean ad selling machine. Sundar Pichai seemed too distant or disinterested to fully engage with Googlers or fight for their interests. For example, his first order of business was to take over one of the three buildings off Charleston and make it off limits to mere mortals. Maybe that is good for share holders, but it wasn't the Google I ever signed up for.
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