HN's HTML Is Invalid • Hacker News Board

Re: HN's HTML Is Invalid

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Post by steviedotboston » Fri, Aug 18, 2023, 2:18 PM UTC

The overwhelming majority of HTML on the web is invalid. Achieving 100% valid HTML nowadays is a fools errand, save for extremely simple web pages.

Re: HN's HTML Is Invalid

#12

Post by water9 » Fri, Aug 18, 2023, 2:19 PM UTC

DANG what a blunder

Re: HN's HTML Is Invalid

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Aug 18, 2023, 2:19 PM UTC

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Re: HN's HTML Is Invalid

#14

Post by throwanem » Fri, Aug 18, 2023, 2:20 PM UTC

foobarian wrote: post #10

sodapopcan wrote: post #5

Ah, cellpadding and cellspacing. A blast from the past!

Wait, there is something newer now?

Tables first came to be used as a tool for general page layout because IE 5's box model sucked so bad nothing else really worked.

It has been a minute since that constraint applied, yeah.

Re: HN's HTML Is Invalid

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Post by gsky » Fri, Aug 18, 2023, 2:20 PM UTC

foobarian wrote: post #10

sodapopcan wrote: post #5

Ah, cellpadding and cellspacing. A blast from the past!

Wait, there is something newer now?

Grid replaced table

Re: HN's HTML Is Invalid

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Post by CharlesW » Fri, Aug 18, 2023, 2:20 PM UTC

superkuh wrote: post #4

The validator's HTML is invalid too. All I get is "Enable JavaScript and cookies to continue" but of course doing that doesn't actually work either. It's crazy that even the W3C has put itself behind cloudflare's walled garden. You'd think if anyone would respect the open web and standards it'd be them. At least HN's page is actually HTML even if it might not be fully standards compliant. That's far better than the W…

> All I get is "Enable JavaScript and cookies to continue" but of course doing that doesn't actually work either.

It does for me. Also, the validator shows 10 warnings and 30 info messages for https://www.w3.org/.

Re: HN's HTML Is Invalid

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Post by 5350-uiop-1130 » Fri, Aug 18, 2023, 2:20 PM UTC

isn't it only xhtml that needs to be strictly valid....

i mean the garbage that gets churned out by react and node generators these days is barely even html.

Re: HN's HTML Is Invalid

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Post by marginalia_nu » Fri, Aug 18, 2023, 2:21 PM UTC

gsky wrote: post #15

foobarian wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, there is something newer now?

Grid replaced table

Tables are still in the HTML spec. Not really practical to represent tabular data with grid layout.

Re: HN's HTML Is Invalid

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Post by trinsic2 » Fri, Aug 18, 2023, 2:21 PM UTC

Speaking of the HTML it would be great to have a way to increase the text size for mobile devices. The Hacker News layout doesn't look to great in reader view.

Re: HN's HTML Is Invalid

#20

Post by Clent » Fri, Aug 18, 2023, 2:21 PM UTC

dickfickling wrote: post #2

(if it wasn't clear, this is submitted in jest)

Perhaps it is in jest but these are errors not warnings and there are a lot of them.

Fixing them would be trivial.

"Yeah but it works" is not engineering.