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Last time I looked Ecto didn't have automatic migrations I think. Does it now? I can't imagine working without this feature after many years of Django...
Last time I looked Ecto didn't have automatic migrations I think. Does it now? I can't imagine working without this feature after many years of Django...
On the other side, `mix ecto.migrate` essentially works the same as `manage.py migrate` for bringing your database in line with the set of migrations in your code.
I agree with the code generation of libraries in Phoenix being a drawback. I think it maybe a reaction to there being too much magic in Rails dependencies, but it makes upgrades much harder.
A lot of that code generation is to facilitate macros. Personally, I don’t like macros when a little extra code to make a function call would work just fine.
Otherwise, great article about Phoenix!
Last time I looked Ecto didn't have automatic migrations I think. Does it now? I can't imagine working without this feature after many years of Django...
Ash framework [0] does have this feature, though.
I agree with the code generation of libraries in Phoenix being a drawback. I think it maybe a reaction to there being too much magic in Rails dependencies, but it makes upgrades much harder.
I’m surprised to see that the OP, as a Django user, does not call out the lack of an out of the box admin tool that’s not there in Phoenix. Django’s admin is amazing and super useful in production. I love phoenix but I miss an admin tool :(
The Django admin has unfortunately stayed stagnant for 15 years. We built a replacement admin in iommi first almost as a joke, but now it's a serious part of the framework. Our admin is 645 lines of code (54 of which are imports!) while djangos admin is 5307, and still our admin is way more customizable. Not only that, but you can easily reuse all those customizations if you want to lift stuff out of the admin to you…
Django admin is stagnant mostly because of lack of uptake in support from companies. Everyone makes their own admin solution rather than collaborating.
Last time I looked Ecto didn't have automatic migrations I think. Does it now? I can't imagine working without this feature after many years of Django...
I don't know why this is always talked about as if it's some killer feature. You still have to review the migration its generated, don't you? Don't get me wrong, it's a nice feature that I would use if were available, but certainly not even on a list of dealbreakers for me when evaluating a framework. Ash framework [0] does have this feature, though. [0] https://ash-hq.org/
I’m surprised to see that the OP, as a Django user, does not call out the lack of an out of the box admin tool that’s not there in Phoenix. Django’s admin is amazing and super useful in production. I love phoenix but I miss an admin tool :(
Author here. I do love me some Django admin, but I find that I tend to use it a lot early on in a project and then slowly move as much away from it as possible as we build up more specific admin/management-type functionality in the app itself. I also would probably include Django Admin in the "app ecosystem" stuff that I do call out. I think if Phoenix had a similar ecosystem, there could easily be something like Dja…
The tool Andy uses is called kaffy https://hexdocs.pm/kaffy/0.5.0/readme.html
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I don't know why this is always talked about as if it's some killer feature. You still have to review the migration its generated, don't you? Don't get me wrong, it's a nice feature that I would use if were available, but certainly not even on a list of dealbreakers for me when evaluating a framework. Ash framework [0] does have this feature, though. [0] https://ash-hq.org/
The people who talk about it consider it to be a killer feature. I certainly do. There's considerably less ass pain and fear involved in Django migrations.
There's also the thing that schemas are not 1-to-1 with tables in Ecto (I realize it's possible in ORMs too, but not as ergonomic). Sure, you don't have to do this, and many don't, but it's very useful.