This specific scenario doesn’t seem like a damning indictment of the tech, you can absolutely see how it could happen. But on the other hand it speaks to the “death by a thousand cuts”-yness of it all. How many other weird little edge cases exist out there for drivers? Countless. You’re going to struggle to program solutions to every one.
Cruise vehicle gets stuck in wet concrete while driving in San Francisco
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Re: Cruise vehicle gets stuck in wet concrete while driving in San Francisco
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#13I once saw a women drive into a light rail construction site where her car was driving on the rail tracks which were held up by poles. She apparently thought that was how she could also cross the vast chasm that was the construction pit. Unfortunately humans have nothing on the self driving cars in this.
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#14A quick search on Google News shows at least 3 human drivers did the same thing in the last 3 months, so this doesn't bother me all that much.
1)Absolute counts are meaningless given the wildly disproportionate population sizes. We're talking many orders of magnitude difference here. Cruise operates 100 vehicles during the day, 300 at night.
2)Absolute counts worldwide are meaningless when comparing against crashes in SF.
3)You picked an arbitrary period
4)Whether it makes the news is not reliable for statistical comparison. Millions of crashes go unmentioned. Many of them don't even result in a report to any officials.
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#15A quick search on Google News shows at least 3 human drivers did the same thing in the last 3 months, so this doesn't bother me all that much.
I'm not saying this is damning evidence, but how many human drivers are on the road versus AI? A quick Google search says there are 300 Cruise vehicles operating at night currently. I am confident I could survey 10 times that many taxi drivers and not find a single one who has accidentally driven into wet concrete.
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#16Glad they were able to get Paul Harvey's take on this
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#17Still safer than human drivers, who do this all the time
Uh, I know hundreds of drivers, and I've never met someone who's done this. Who are you hanging around?
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#18What I'd like to know is if the concrete was marked out with cones.
If it was then clearly the car's fault, if not then the worker's fault. Cones become more critical with the proliferation of non-human drivers.
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#19A quick search on Google News shows at least 3 human drivers did the same thing in the last 3 months, so this doesn't bother me all that much.
And over the course of a year their fleet has collectively driven somewhere around a million miles. Human drivers on US roads complete over 3 trillion miles per year.
So, one Cruise vehicle driving into concrete is about equivalent to 3 million human drivers driving into concrete on an equal rate basis.
Re: Cruise vehicle gets stuck in wet concrete while driving in San Francisco
#20How badly protected does a piece of fresh concrete have to be for this to be possible? Never heard of this happening before.