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We Call on FOSS Contributors to “Exit Zoom”

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Re: We Call on FOSS Contributors to “Exit Zoom”

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As a Deaf person using sign language, Zoom is essential for virtual meetings as its the only platform I've used that consistently delivers acceptable video performance. Teams suffers from random issues that just crops up out of nowhere eg videos going blank, sudden reductions in bittate, periods of excessive dropped frames, etc. Google's platform (whatever its called these days) struggles to cope with multiple videos…

Can you try and comment on

meet.jit.si ?

Re: We Call on FOSS Contributors to “Exit Zoom”

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post #6

As a Deaf person using sign language, Zoom is essential for virtual meetings as its the only platform I've used that consistently delivers acceptable video performance. Teams suffers from random issues that just crops up out of nowhere eg videos going blank, sudden reductions in bittate, periods of excessive dropped frames, etc. Google's platform (whatever its called these days) struggles to cope with multiple videos…

Same with Slack, stuttering video in their 'huddles', broken audio.

Zoom works.

Re: We Call on FOSS Contributors to “Exit Zoom”

#13
post #6

As a Deaf person using sign language, Zoom is essential for virtual meetings as its the only platform I've used that consistently delivers acceptable video performance. Teams suffers from random issues that just crops up out of nowhere eg videos going blank, sudden reductions in bittate, periods of excessive dropped frames, etc. Google's platform (whatever its called these days) struggles to cope with multiple videos…

Google Meet performance is pretty much up there for me these days. It's very rare that quality degrades for any of the use cases you described. Maybe it's gotten better, who knows.

Re: We Call on FOSS Contributors to “Exit Zoom”

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post #6

As a Deaf person using sign language, Zoom is essential for virtual meetings as its the only platform I've used that consistently delivers acceptable video performance. Teams suffers from random issues that just crops up out of nowhere eg videos going blank, sudden reductions in bittate, periods of excessive dropped frames, etc. Google's platform (whatever its called these days) struggles to cope with multiple videos…

Isn't sign language less efficient than typing? Are there conditions where you are on a video call with a keyboard in front of you, where you prefer to use sign language over typing? Or is the use case when you're away from a keyboard? Would it help to have text-to-speech built into the video software?

Re: We Call on FOSS Contributors to “Exit Zoom”

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post #14
post #6

As a Deaf person using sign language, Zoom is essential for virtual meetings as its the only platform I've used that consistently delivers acceptable video performance. Teams suffers from random issues that just crops up out of nowhere eg videos going blank, sudden reductions in bittate, periods of excessive dropped frames, etc. Google's platform (whatever its called these days) struggles to cope with multiple videos…

Isn't sign language less efficient than typing? Are there conditions where you are on a video call with a keyboard in front of you, where you prefer to use sign language over typing? Or is the use case when you're away from a keyboard? Would it help to have text-to-speech built into the video software?

My understanding is that deaf people far prefer signing. For deaf people it’s easier to both sign and to read signs than writing.

Language emerged from gesture and it’s these people’s native form of communication.

Re: We Call on FOSS Contributors to “Exit Zoom”

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post #6

As a Deaf person using sign language, Zoom is essential for virtual meetings as its the only platform I've used that consistently delivers acceptable video performance. Teams suffers from random issues that just crops up out of nowhere eg videos going blank, sudden reductions in bittate, periods of excessive dropped frames, etc. Google's platform (whatever its called these days) struggles to cope with multiple videos…

Google Meet performance is pretty much up there for me these days. It's very rare that quality degrades for any of the use cases you described. Maybe it's gotten better, who knows.

It has gotten better — still noticeably worse than zoom

Re: We Call on FOSS Contributors to “Exit Zoom”

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post #14
post #6

As a Deaf person using sign language, Zoom is essential for virtual meetings as its the only platform I've used that consistently delivers acceptable video performance. Teams suffers from random issues that just crops up out of nowhere eg videos going blank, sudden reductions in bittate, periods of excessive dropped frames, etc. Google's platform (whatever its called these days) struggles to cope with multiple videos…

Isn't sign language less efficient than typing? Are there conditions where you are on a video call with a keyboard in front of you, where you prefer to use sign language over typing? Or is the use case when you're away from a keyboard? Would it help to have text-to-speech built into the video software?

What's your point? The same can be said with regards to oral communication.

People who communicate in sign language do so in a very expressive way, a way that pure text cannot capture. You should go out of your way to experience this for yourself.

Re: We Call on FOSS Contributors to “Exit Zoom”

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I actually had to read this whole thing twice because the first time I thought they genuinely wrote all that without even suggesting a single FOSS alternative to zoom. They don't actually suggest one so much as effervescently mention one (BigBlueButton) near the end without describing it at all or even indicating that, yes, this is the what they want people to drop Zoom for. No wonder there's no author listed, this is one of the worst attempts at effective communication and persuasion I've ever seen. You can't sit there and say Zoom sucks without telling us why the alternative is better, especially when 95% of peoples' experience in the matter is that Zoom is an order of magnitude better than everything else they've tried.

We in the FOSS community need to stop being worse than our stereotypes.

Re: We Call on FOSS Contributors to “Exit Zoom”

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post #6

As a Deaf person using sign language, Zoom is essential for virtual meetings as its the only platform I've used that consistently delivers acceptable video performance. Teams suffers from random issues that just crops up out of nowhere eg videos going blank, sudden reductions in bittate, periods of excessive dropped frames, etc. Google's platform (whatever its called these days) struggles to cope with multiple videos…

Google Meet performance is pretty much up there for me these days. It's very rare that quality degrades for any of the use cases you described. Maybe it's gotten better, who knows.

Google Meets is far behind- even image quality on 1-2 people call is quite low.
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