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How Is LLaMa.cpp Possible?

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Re: How Is LLaMa.cpp Possible?

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I’ve been working through that repo and managed the 13B dataset on a single Pi4 8gig

I’ve also replicated the work in OpenMPI ( from a thread on the llama.cpp GitHub repo ) and today I managed to get the 65B dataset operational on three pi4 nodes.

I’m not saying this as any achievement of mine, but as a comment on the current reality of reproducible LLM At home on anything you’ve got.

It really feels like this technique has arrived.

https://github.com/cameronbunce/ClusterConfig

Re: How Is LLaMa.cpp Possible?

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In case anyone is wondering, yes, there is a cost when a model is quantized. https://oobabooga.github.io/blog/posts/perplexities/ Essentially, you lose some accuracy and there might be some weird answers and probably more likely to go off the rail and hallucinate. But the quality loss is lower the more parameters you have. So for very large model sizes the differences might be negligible. Also, this is the cost of in…

Thank you! Is there a sweet spot with quantization. how much can you quantize for given model type and size and still be useful.

Re: How Is LLaMa.cpp Possible?

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What I find more stunning is what this implies going forward. If tech advances as it tends to do then having a 200bn model fit into consumer hardware isn't that far away. Might not be AGI but I think cliched as it is that would "change everything". If not at 200 then 400 or whatever. Doesn't matter - the direction of travel seems certain.

Basically Ray Kurzweil's argument, he's been saying $1000 worth of compute will be able to match human performance around 2029 for decades now.

The irony in your statement is immense. Yes, Kurzeweil has been saying this for decades. No it doesn't mean AGI is close. These llms do nothing to advance AGI. There is no theoretical basis to the belief in emergent intelligence from statistical language models and the answers are amazingly good, highly unreliable and parrot meaning at best. There is no inductance, and no inteospection and no understanding of the deep semantic meaning of the language presented. There's no intelligence.

Re: How Is LLaMa.cpp Possible?

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Basically Ray Kurzweil's argument, he's been saying $1000 worth of compute will be able to match human performance around 2029 for decades now.

First, there has to be something capable of matching human performance at a much higher cost. This is still just spicy autocomplete.

Humans just do spicy autocomplete too.

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Bah. We still haven't equaled the rude and hateful AI achieved in a microcomputer in 1981. https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-079 >

We can keep reaching for that rainbow.

A good analogy: as you approach the rainbow moves off. Others see you in it, but you can confirm it's somewhere else. It's an effect, a side effect, it's pretty and we value it. There's no pot of gold in literal sense, it's ephemeral value in other products.

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First, there has to be something capable of matching human performance at a much higher cost. This is still just spicy autocomplete.

Humans just do spicy autocomplete too.

No they don't. You're "just" doing what everyone else in the past has done with the brain/human intelligence and using the latest technology as a metaphor without realizing it.

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First, there has to be something capable of matching human performance at a much higher cost. This is still just spicy autocomplete.

Humans just do spicy autocomplete too.

No, a human isn't born with a set of knowledge like a freshly trained LLM, keeping the model fixed and responding to input. The analog to the model changes based on the human's experience. Just making bigger and bigger LLMs won't give you this.

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Humans just do spicy autocomplete too.

No they don't. You're "just" doing what everyone else in the past has done with the brain/human intelligence and using the latest technology as a metaphor without realizing it.

We want to think we’re exceptional but all we can do is say “human consciousness is special” without having any way of measuring it or disproving the assertion that we’re just really fancy pattern matchers.

Take any metaphor you want, it’s the same outcome: we may all be philosophical zombies.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Humans just do spicy autocomplete too.

No, a human isn't born with a set of knowledge like a freshly trained LLM, keeping the model fixed and responding to input. The analog to the model changes based on the human's experience. Just making bigger and bigger LLMs won't give you this.

So a human is different because it keeps training its neural network?
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