This is the kind of thing that is inspiring to young people. Not watching a couple of billionaires experience weightlessness for a few minutes.
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#12I didn't realize how explicit the Montana state constitution was on this [1], which was rewritten in 1972: Part IX. ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL RESOURCES Section 1. Protection and improvement. (1) The state and each person shall maintain and improve a clean and healthful environment in Montana for present and future generations. (2) The legislature shall provide for the administration and enforcement of this duty. (3) Th…
Back when conservatism was synonymous with being conservative wrt the environment. Such a different place today's conservatives are at.
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#13This is the kind of thing that is inspiring to young people. Not watching a couple of billionaires experience weightlessness for a few minutes.
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Given that their parents and grandparents probably are the same folk that ensured a worse quality of life for them I'm going to side with the kids on this one.
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#14“There are political decisions being made without regard to the best scientific evidence and the effects they will have on our youngest generations,”
Yes, there are, indeed.
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#15> detailed how extreme weather has hurt her family’s ranch. Animal agriculture is also a big contributor to greenhouse gas emissions, dead zones, and habitat loss. Her family's ranch my not align with her fight against climate change.
very complicated issue as animal grazing also has tremendous environmental benefits
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#16I didn't realize how explicit the Montana state constitution was on this [1], which was rewritten in 1972: Part IX. ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL RESOURCES Section 1. Protection and improvement. (1) The state and each person shall maintain and improve a clean and healthful environment in Montana for present and future generations. (2) The legislature shall provide for the administration and enforcement of this duty. (3) Th…
(The state and) each person shall maintain and improve a clean and healthful environment in Montana for present and future generations.
What is the _duty_ of each Montanan to improve the environment? What is the limit of a state in passing laws requiring action to enforce such duty?
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#17AFAICT without being an expert: 1. The state constitution says it's got to provide a clean environment https://leg.mt.gov/bills/mca/Constitution/IX/1.htm (so short I won't provide a quote) 2. The Montana Environmental Policy Act in Montana has some exceptions written into it and in subsequent revisions https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/Environmental/2021-m... 3. One of these exceptions is that it limits the sco…
>> things that's used to stop windmills
Why do you hate whales and birds? The environmental impact if windmills are pretty large
>The article is that it's over fossil fuels, which sounds like the right target,
MT has the largest coal reserves. Pretty sure that is target. The problem here like most of these things is the unintended consequences of these policies. Often they are only concerned with stopping the thing they believe is evil with no workable solutions as to what will replace it at all level, either from the energy demand stand point, economic fall out to the local economy, or the various other problems that some with regulatory change instead of market driven or natural change.
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#18This is the kind of thing that is inspiring to young people. Not watching a couple of billionaires experience weightlessness for a few minutes.
My experience is young people are rarely inspired by news stories.
Of all news stories, the ones involving court cases are the least inspiring.
This isn’t about a disadvantaged person overcoming adversity. It’s a bunch of suits sitting on a room.
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#19From a logical perspective, Montana now needs to declare war on China and India. The US' CO2 emissions have been falling for a long time, now at levels of the 1950s.
Pritzker's nuclear ban also means Montana invading a fellow state.
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#20From a logical perspective, Montana now needs to declare war on China and India. The US' CO2 emissions have been falling for a long time, now at levels of the 1950s. Pritzker's nuclear ban also means Montana invading a fellow state.
There are less severe actions than invading.