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Re: HashiCorp adopts Business Source License

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Post by version_five »

hashtag-til wrote: post #4

I’m a full time engineer, working on OSS for more than a decade. As much as I love open-souce, I get the point that there are a bunch of freeloaders using stuff and not contributing back.

I'll never understand this attitude. Are some people contributing to open source principally for a kind of quid-pro-quo? I think it's nice when people contribute back, but it's certainly not a motivation for me to open source stuff - other than to set an example. People can do what they want with the software, that's the whole point.

Full disclosure, I'm a shitty open source contributor, but I have some projects on github that I know others have gotten use from, and that makes me happy, not concerned someone is "freeloading".

Re: HashiCorp adopts Business Source License

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Post by yellowapple »

> As a result, we believe commercial open source models need to evolve for the ecosystem to continue providing open, freely available software.

To imply that a non-open-source license like the BUSL is part of such an evolution of "open source" models (commercial or otherwise) betrays either severe confusion or a deliberate attempt to mislead.

Like, has anyone of any significance used a Hashicorp product to meaningfully compete with Hashicorp?

Re: HashiCorp adopts Business Source License

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Post by mavelikara »

webmobdev wrote: post #9
hashtag-til wrote: post #4

I’m a full time engineer, working on OSS for more than a decade. As much as I love open-souce, I get the point that there are a bunch of freeloaders using stuff and not contributing back.

If you don't want "free"loaders using your software why is it "free" in the first place?

Free as in freedom, not beer.

Re: HashiCorp adopts Business Source License

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Post by kdmccormick »

webmobdev wrote: post #9
hashtag-til wrote: post #4

I’m a full time engineer, working on OSS for more than a decade. As much as I love open-souce, I get the point that there are a bunch of freeloaders using stuff and not contributing back.

If you don't want "free"loaders using your software why is it "free" in the first place?

Because they want it to be developed collaboratively, in the public eye, and for the good of all contributors.

In other words, free as in freedom, but not free as in beer.

Re: HashiCorp adopts Business Source License

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Post by skrowl »

Exuma wrote: post #6
hashtag-til wrote: post #4

I’m a full time engineer, working on OSS for more than a decade. As much as I love open-souce, I get the point that there are a bunch of freeloaders using stuff and not contributing back.

Out of curiosity what is your definition of a freeloader? Is someone who’s been coding but hasn’t made a single OSS commit a freeloader ?

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Re: HashiCorp adopts Business Source License

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Post by yellowapple »

wmf wrote: post #8
Exuma wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity what is your definition of a freeloader? Is someone who’s been coding but hasn’t made a single OSS commit a freeloader ?

It sounds like there are companies selling Terraform with a wrapper on top and not paying Hashicorp anything.

I know of precisely zero such companies, and I can't imagine how such a company would even have customers in the first place when Terraform already has a $0 pricetag.

I could maybe understand this for Consul or Vault, since those are actual hostable services that could probably be resold - but I don't know of anyone reselling those, either.

Re: HashiCorp adopts Business Source License

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Post by yellowapple »

mavelikara wrote: post #13
webmobdev wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't want "free"loaders using your software why is it "free" in the first place?

Free as in freedom, not beer.

Except that the BUSL is the literal opposite: free as in beer, not freedom.
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