I'm not going to buy a car that is going to charge me a subscription for internet service to use the apps I can already use through Android Auto. Will never happen.
GM confirms $130k Cadillac won’t have Apple CarPlay or Android Auto
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#12This sounds like someone is trying to empire build at GM to create their own version of carplay so they can be promoted.
Imagine the pleasure in 3-4 years when your 130k car plays an advert on the main screen whenever you start your car, a "feature" that can only be disabled if you pay for the 20$/month premium GM+ package that includes GPS map updates and unlocks the sunroof.
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#13Wow. Gotta feel bad for the engineers and other developers who put a lot of sweat and tears into this car, only to have its market prospects fucked beyond all belief by rent-seeking bean counters at the head office.
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#14It's a battle of control of what information the consumer sees and the stream of what private information is pilfered back. Apple/Google have a deathgrip on smart phones by disallowing root, and automakers have taken note of the playbook. I used to say "in the future your car is unlikely to start start without wifi", but now that promise has come true, I'll just say "your fridge is unlikely to make ice without wifi".
> "in the future your car is unlikely to start start without wifi", but now that promise has come true
Source?
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#15It’s interesting to see how a lot of new gas cars have Apple CarPlay / Android Auto but all of the new EV cars are going towards custom OS which essentially leads to worse user experiences for manufacturers who aren’t well versed in software.
It's honestly insane. CarPlay does everything I want and the best part is it just works. A large part of that "it just works" is the fact that it's all based directly on my phone. * That restaurant we just decided to go to. Already in navigation. AND! the maps are all current with road closures/traffic issues. * The music that I was playing, it just keeps going * The garage door opener/lock/etc that I just added to H…
The best part is I do not have to worry about a third party vendor getting access to my smartphone’s data.
For better or worse, the smartphone is a vault of almost everything about a person, including the ability to impersonate them.
Obviously, Apple and Google already have access to all of this, but I see no reason to let yet another entity have it.
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#16It’s interesting to see how a lot of new gas cars have Apple CarPlay / Android Auto but all of the new EV cars are going towards custom OS which essentially leads to worse user experiences for manufacturers who aren’t well versed in software.
This isn't really true except for Rivian and Tesla, which as start ups, wrote their own stack and want to fully control it.
GM is moving to Google Automotive and doesn't want to enable Carplay or Android Auto, but Google is already in there deep. No other legacy manufacturers have announced plans to take away Carplay/Android Auto. Quite a few are basing their systems on Android Automotive, though (BMW, Volvo/Polestar, GM as mentioned, off the top of my head), so even if you don't use a Google phone, Google is going to have your data.
There is no difference here between ICE vehiclws and BEVs, other than the two startups I mentioned.
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#17I won't be happy until I can stream my driving experience on Twitch, with the option to occasionally hand over control of my vehicle to chat.
You laugh, but I've always thought that would have been a good intermediate step towards full self-driving. Provide the option to delegate it to humans in a building 1000 miles away, similar to how the US military conducts drone warfare.
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#18Good! Hopefully it will have no touchscreen either, only tactile buttons.
Nope. Quite the opposite. Touchscreens aren't going anywhere.
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#19Good! Hopefully it will have no touchscreen either, only tactile buttons.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news...
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#20It’s interesting to see how a lot of new gas cars have Apple CarPlay / Android Auto but all of the new EV cars are going towards custom OS which essentially leads to worse user experiences for manufacturers who aren’t well versed in software.
It's honestly insane. CarPlay does everything I want and the best part is it just works. A large part of that "it just works" is the fact that it's all based directly on my phone. * That restaurant we just decided to go to. Already in navigation. AND! the maps are all current with road closures/traffic issues. * The music that I was playing, it just keeps going * The garage door opener/lock/etc that I just added to H…
Exactly. This is one of those terrible decisions that GM will have to retract. The only question is when.
There is no way they are going to be able to compete with Apple or Google. Literally the worst software engineer at either of those companies is better than anyone GM has.
Will make an interesting Harvard MBA case study.