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The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by tenpies »

gumballindie wrote: post #2

Funny how news loves to refer to russian companies as "giants". Russian oil "giant", search "giant", etc. Just an amusing fact.

Also Western billionaire versus Russian oligarch - even if the source of wealth is virtually identical and their political power probably higher in the West.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by azangru »

Another example of political language from the article, in addition to what was described in a sibling comment:

> Do we want, at a time when Russia is considering the UK as an enemy, to be providing all our personal details to a server in Moscow?

Not "at a time when the UK considers Russia as an enemy". There is something of a Russell conjugation here.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

>Do we want, at a time when Russia is considering the UK as an enemy, to be providing all our personal details to a server in Moscow?

Depends how good the search is. Google doesn’t seem to want to provide me proper results anymore, even very basic image search tasks on google now net you only about 20 results all of which are wrong or useless. Yandex image search actually works.

If you don’t want me to use the Russian tech that helps me get my job done then roll back the Google Search codebase 10 years to when it worked as well as Yandex does today. (Only partially joking)

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by orangepurple »

veave wrote: post #4
gumballindie wrote: post #2

Funny how news loves to refer to russian companies as "giants". Russian oil "giant", search "giant", etc. Just an amusing fact.

And lobbyists are not lobbyists, they are oligarchs.

Lobbyists are not oligarchs. They are middlemen and facilitators of corruption and bribery that provide plausible deniability.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by orangepurple »

gumballindie wrote: post #6
kkfdkerpoe wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, lots of giants for a country with GDP lower than that of Italy. Perhaps they refer to the bellies of the oligarchy that owns the companies.

A GPD lower than that of Italy? Here's something better: per capita is lower than that of Bulgaria's. Perhaps Putin's plan is to lower the country's population to increase the per capita ratio?

Speculation: Putin's plan is definitely not to lower the population. His people need young men to wage war against the West.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by secondary_op »

> jdangu > co-founder Confiant > Kaileigh McCrea, Privacy Engineer

> jdangu on Aug 4, 2015 > We (ClarityAd) do this for major ad platforms. We use a mix of static and dynamic analysis to assess risk.

Fuck off. And since you here, you might tell us all how much you get incentive by aligning with U.S. owned Ad platforms, that also align with U.S. national interest to smear foreign tech giant Ad business?

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by throw-ru-938 »

Context: Yandex is in the news right now because a couple of days ago its cofounder and former CEO Arkady Volozh was caught trying to hide his Russian past [0], and today he finally issued a public statement condemning the war [1], almost 1.5 years after the full-scale invasion began.

[0] https://kz.kursiv.media/en/2023-08-07/co-founder-of-yandex-e...

[1] https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-yandex-volozh...

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by GaggiX »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #13

>Do we want, at a time when Russia is considering the UK as an enemy, to be providing all our personal details to a server in Moscow? Depends how good the search is. Google doesn’t seem to want to provide me proper results anymore, even very basic image search tasks on google now net you only about 20 results all of which are wrong or useless. Yandex image search actually works. If you don’t want me to use the Russia…

The thing I found ridiculous about Google today is the image reverse search, unusable, but I have an extension to use the previous one before Google Lens was a thing.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by sidibe »

tenpies wrote: post #11
gumballindie wrote: post #2

Funny how news loves to refer to russian companies as "giants". Russian oil "giant", search "giant", etc. Just an amusing fact.

Also Western billionaire versus Russian oligarch - even if the source of wealth is virtually identical and their political power probably higher in the West.

I do think they don't use oligarch for all Russian billionaires. For example it isn't used for Tinkov or Durov. In 90s-00s there really were oligarchs, now they use it for the ones that are or were maybe affiliated with government, like the childhood friends of Putin or former KGB/St Petersburg mayor's office employees who all happen to be CEOs of huge companies

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by boeingUH60 »

tenpies wrote: post #11
gumballindie wrote: post #2

Funny how news loves to refer to russian companies as "giants". Russian oil "giant", search "giant", etc. Just an amusing fact.

Also Western billionaire versus Russian oligarch - even if the source of wealth is virtually identical and their political power probably higher in the West.

"Oligarchs" refer to underground Russian businessmen that cheaply bought up state assets after the USSR collapsed and sold it for exceedingly higher sums later.

It's a blasphemy to capitalism to conflate those bandits with Western entrepreneurs that founded and built their own companies from scratch, even though they have their own set of issues.

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