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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because of the step change in functionality, ChatGPT is not banned. However I am prohibited from using ChatGPT outputs in certain contexts. Unfortunately, Grammarly and ChatGPT are under different application classifications.

I think the danger is more on what you input to Chatgpt... but true is same for Grammerly as all text typed in the web is sent to them right?

The difference is in the value returned. Punching queries into a third party search engine is also risky. If that search engine knew who you worked for, it could extract what you were working on and potentially how competent you were at it.

Now try telling engineers to not use google.

On the flip side, grammarly is often positioned by corporate security as a nice to have feature which can be replaced by offline spellcheck and internal web docs.

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Grammarly is an extremely obvious intelligence cutout masquerading as a company. Their entire business model is getting employees insecure about their English skills to dump sensitive government and business documents into their service without their employer's knowledge. They were founded in and keep multinational offices in intelligence laundering hotspots so the Americans can claim to have received tips from the Germans and the Germans from the Ukrainians and so on.

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Grammarly is an extremely obvious intelligence cutout masquerading as a company. Their entire business model is getting employees insecure about their English skills to dump sensitive government and business documents into their service without their employer's knowledge. They were founded in and keep multinational offices in intelligence laundering hotspots so the Americans can claim to have received tips from the G…

Stipulating that this is a valid concern, the obvious judo move is to craft a bunch of subtle GPT inputs to feed disinformtzya to this alleged collector.

That is, such an intel conduit works well until the the subjects turn the tables.

Probably a high tech thriller plot in there somewhere.

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Currently going through it around this and Zoom at my employer, who are a small team and seem to really not trust my experience in security and privacy. Definitely a losing battle and I’ll probably need to exit soon due to differences in direction. Anyone hiring in the security field these days? Off to check the last who’s hiring post I guess.

make sure you update your resume with the company's version of Grammarly before you leave

Re: To opt out of Grammarly AI training requires business account with 500+ users

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500+ users? I guess my company's ~150 Grammarly users will have to give its money to someone else.

who?

Microsoft, why not)?

If you're willing to pay to have your privacy invaded, might as well have top of the line.

Re: To opt out of Grammarly AI training requires business account with 500+ users

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500+ users? I guess my company's ~150 Grammarly users will have to give its money to someone else.

who?

I’m part of the team at Sapling AI (YC W19).

We offer a no data retention option for all teams. If a business wants to try us out for free I’m happy to set something up.

We also offer our application self-hosted/on-premise/cloud-premise. We have single-tenant (separate data) options as well. These options have a higher deployment cost so they may not make sense for teams under 10.

Re: To opt out of Grammarly AI training requires business account with 500+ users

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Grammarly is an extremely obvious intelligence cutout masquerading as a company. Their entire business model is getting employees insecure about their English skills to dump sensitive government and business documents into their service without their employer's knowledge. They were founded in and keep multinational offices in intelligence laundering hotspots so the Americans can claim to have received tips from the G…

That doesn’t make any sense. Everyone used it in high school and college, they’re very heavily targeted to education.

If anything, Microsoft Editor (which is on by default) would be an tool of intelligence because we already know Microsoft participated in PRISM, but that’s boring and too unstoppable

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