Can IQ be considered a scientific measurement, when a coffee or a bad sleep can affect the outcome? What do people here think?
I don't get it. Is a tape measure invalid because height varies over the course of a day?
Does a tape measure change?
What Does IQ Measure? [video]
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I cannot understand you position. You seem to assume that exactly one of these is true: 1) IQ is a measure of "true" intelligence or 2) IQ completely fails as a measure and is meaningless and since 1) is too nebulous to be true then 2) must be true. I am not an expert on IQ, but if it was highly correlated with being able to recognize and guess patterns from incomplete data it would not be a surprise to me. Even just…
My point is: IQ tests fail to provide a measure of intelligence. The linked video at the end discusses some reasons why, such as environmental, educational, and cultural differences. The primary problem with these tests is that they are created by groups of people who have their own specific view on what intelligence is. Yes, these tests assess certain traits of an individual, but intelligence is likely a more comple…
I agree that IQ is not a true measure for intelligence, but it does not need to be one to be a meaningful measure
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My point is: IQ tests fail to provide a measure of intelligence. The linked video at the end discusses some reasons why, such as environmental, educational, and cultural differences. The primary problem with these tests is that they are created by groups of people who have their own specific view on what intelligence is. Yes, these tests assess certain traits of an individual, but intelligence is likely a more comple…
I agree that IQ is not a true measure for intelligence, but it does not need to be one to be a meaningful measure
What exactly for? All quantitative measures have a purpose. What good does IQ do as a quantitative measure if it can't measure what it stands for?
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#15IQ measures how well you can do an IQ Test. It has no other usefulness. A bit like HN karma points: It looks useful, but signifies nothing.
how dare you
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I agree that IQ is not a true measure for intelligence, but it does not need to be one to be a meaningful measure
What exactly for? All quantitative measures have a purpose. What good does IQ do as a quantitative measure if it can't measure what it stands for?
As I previously said You seem to assume that exactly one of these is true:
1) IQ is a measure of "true" intelligence
or
2) IQ completely fails as a measure and is meaningless
There are other things worth measuring.
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What exactly for? All quantitative measures have a purpose. What good does IQ do as a quantitative measure if it can't measure what it stands for?
As I previously said You seem to assume that exactly one of these is true: 1) IQ is a measure of "true" intelligence or 2) IQ completely fails as a measure and is meaningless There are other things worth measuring.
What was the point of repeating yourself? You didn't specify what those measurable things were. My point is, the term "IQ" should not be used if the test is unable to measure what its name implies. That's about it. The cultural bias in IQ tests has been widely documented. However, I must admit the usefulness of these tests by the U.S. Army and Marine Corps in decreasing fatality rates. It might be better to rename these tests though.
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As I previously said You seem to assume that exactly one of these is true: 1) IQ is a measure of "true" intelligence or 2) IQ completely fails as a measure and is meaningless There are other things worth measuring.
What was the point of repeating yourself? You didn't specify what those measurable things were. My point is, the term "IQ" should not be used if the test is unable to measure what its name implies. That's about it. The cultural bias in IQ tests has been widely documented. However, I must admit the usefulness of these tests by the U.S. Army and Marine Corps in decreasing fatality rates. It might be better to rename th…
One thing it apparently measures decently well is how good of a beginner you are on a new random thing.
Honestly I too would appreciate a different name because too many people[0] see it as "Smart Elite Classifier Test".
wrt cultural biases it is the same issue, you would need to develop a different test for each new cultural context. I agree that biased test have been used wrongly.
Overral IQ has a serious public image problem as some of its most vocal supporters are also its worst enemies.
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