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Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

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Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

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What could you possibly mean? Government made it so much better. How else would you know that the cookies (you're going to consent to anyway) are being put on your computer?

The ads are a lot worse than the consent banners, though.

Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

#12
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What could you possibly mean? Government made it so much better. How else would you know that the cookies (you're going to consent to anyway) are being put on your computer?

It may be annoying, but just the possibility of opting out of some of them is already something against the rising tide of taking control away from the user.

Is it the perfect system? No. Is it better than no system at all. I think so.

Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

#13
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What could you possibly mean? Government made it so much better. How else would you know that the cookies (you're going to consent to anyway) are being put on your computer?

And it is not like companies could have chosen a better approach.. like default opt-out, or remember that one thing, or respect a DNT. There would have been some options to comply with the law, but there was only one that still allows companies to grab most of the data and at the same time get people annoyed about the attempt to reasonable legislation (which certainly could be improved, like just go a DNT approach, but companies went immediately rampant on that for the same reasons..)

But big corps know what they wanted and do and lead the rest of the pack..

Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

#14
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i liked how the reddit popup had nothing to do with cookie consent and the second site didnt have any popups at all - author could have cherry picked a bad example but for some reason gave us this?

Well, it‘s fairer than cherry picking the most outrageous examples. Though I wonder if he didn‘t get any Reddit cookie banners because he had already accepted them at some point in the past.

Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

#16

And think, if website operators chose to actually use the DoNotTrack signal from your browser, you wouldn't have such a terrible experience on their websites.

Wasn't there an incident where a browser shipped with DoNotTrack enabled by default, and thus the signal didn't actually mean the user explicitly enabled DNT themselves?

Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

#17
post #3

i liked how the reddit popup had nothing to do with cookie consent and the second site didnt have any popups at all - author could have cherry picked a bad example but for some reason gave us this?

I mean... I just recorded a browsing experience? It's the entire experience in general that sucks imho, regardless of cookie consent popups or not.

Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

#18
But you know that the problem are we operators - right?

There could be browser configuration for the cookie consent popup (accept, essential, reject all) that websites could follow but now - they prefer to be obnoxious about it hoping that everyone will click "allow" pit of boredom (not to mention that at the beginning it was only visible option and reject was hidden, which was illegal)...

Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

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What could you possibly mean? Government made it so much better. How else would you know that the cookies (you're going to consent to anyway) are being put on your computer?

People with anti-GDPR views appear to assume that like them, everybody else also just wants to accept every cookie. But that is not true. And the interface affects how users respond, too. For example:

  Given a binary choice, more users are willing to accept tracking compared to mechanisms that require them to allow cookie use for each category or company individually
https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3319535.3354212

Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

#20
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What could you possibly mean? Government made it so much better. How else would you know that the cookies (you're going to consent to anyway) are being put on your computer?

> you're going to consent to anyway

Speak for yourself. I never consent to marketing or analytical cookies. I appreciate the option to turn them off.

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