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Damaging results of mandated return to the office: it’s worse than we thought

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Re: Damaging results of mandated return to the office: it’s worse than we thought

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Of course it's too early to tell with lots of confounding variables, but labor productivity has been taking a steep dive[0]. So perhaps in the aggregate, WFH is resulting in less work being done. I say this as someone who's been full-time WFH for over a decade; I'm not taking a position one way or another. [0]: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MPU4910063

Have salaries followed that curve for productivity increases?

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> “staggering 76% of employees stand ready to jump ship if their companies decide to pull the plug on flexible work schedules” People always say this, but I’d bet that the vast majority of those 76% would begrudgingly go in if it was demanded. Talk is cheap, as they say.

As always, the people with the most options and who are most in demand will be the ones to leave first. I've seen this firsthand.

Then you're left with the worst people, people who are unhappy but stuck, and people who just can't be bothered to do anything about it.

Sounds like a great recipe for productivity! I love working with my fellow cage-mates.

Re: Damaging results of mandated return to the office: it’s worse than we thought

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post #3

Of course it's too early to tell with lots of confounding variables, but labor productivity has been taking a steep dive[0]. So perhaps in the aggregate, WFH is resulting in less work being done. I say this as someone who's been full-time WFH for over a decade; I'm not taking a position one way or another. [0]: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MPU4910063

Productivity can't really be defined, let alone measured. When people start talking about it they have left hard facts behind I'm afraid...

Re: Damaging results of mandated return to the office: it’s worse than we thought

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It is unclear who wants RTO, at least within tech and other leaders whom I know within tech.

Some people do and some people don’t. It seems to me it’s largely a matter of personal preference.

I worked from home before the pandemic, hated it, and vowed to never do it again. Then the pandemic happened.

Re: Damaging results of mandated return to the office: it’s worse than we thought

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The manager class is going to go kicking and screaming into the new world where they can no longer call their otherwise totally capable, productive employees into the office for morning snack like schoolchildren. The faster they accept it, the better off their organizations will be.

Re: Damaging results of mandated return to the office: it’s worse than we thought

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I understand why businesses want us to return to office, and cannot disagree that I would likely react the same way. However returning to the office has numerous additional costs that are very much avoidable. I have to go to the office once a week. That’s a week do gas, time, money, pollution, and using resources and space that is duplicative.

Re: Damaging results of mandated return to the office: it’s worse than we thought

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post #3

Of course it's too early to tell with lots of confounding variables, but labor productivity has been taking a steep dive[0]. So perhaps in the aggregate, WFH is resulting in less work being done. I say this as someone who's been full-time WFH for over a decade; I'm not taking a position one way or another. [0]: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MPU4910063

I think that a tight labor market has more to do with worker productivity than WFH. After all why work so hard if you can find a new job quickly.

Productivity shot up early COVID when people were scared and WFH started?

Re: Damaging results of mandated return to the office: it’s worse than we thought

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> The survey equates the displeasure of shifting from a flexible work model to a traditional one to that of experiencing a 2-3% pay cut. I think they forgot a 0.

Yes, this doesn't add up. The typical 2x20 mins daily commute is effectively an 8% unpaid increase in working hours, not counting transportation costs.

Re: Damaging results of mandated return to the office: it’s worse than we thought

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> “staggering 76% of employees stand ready to jump ship if their companies decide to pull the plug on flexible work schedules” People always say this, but I’d bet that the vast majority of those 76% would begrudgingly go in if it was demanded. Talk is cheap, as they say.

Maybe, but people have learned to value their lives outside of work more than they once did; spending time with family and living outside of a big city (if that's what you want) is a huge draw for people like me.

Sample size of one, but I've thought about this a lot, and I decided I would hand in my notice if my company unilaterally demanded I physically present myself in a building for several days per week. I've never worked on-site in this job, and been consistently ranked highly in terms of productivity and responsibility.

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