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What do I think about biometric proof of personhood?

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Re: What do I think about biometric proof of personhood?

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I still haven't seen anyone address the question of how the orb will determine that I am one person, and not two one-eyed persons. It seems like by chosing something that most people have two of, people can easily create a left and right identity.

maybe it should be a nose orb

Re: What do I think about biometric proof of personhood?

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post #5

"a decentralized proof-of-personhood solution" Why and how is Worldcoin able to prove 'personhood'? Just spend five second thinking about if that is really what this is about. Why this phrasing?

It's in the article. Fuzzy iris hashes made with specialized hardware.

Re: What do I think about biometric proof of personhood?

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post #2

It's rare to find a technology that's so creepy & exploitative, yet also so fundamentally without utility.

Meh, it sounds creepy, but the article goes into detail on why the iris hashes are sufficiently private.

I suspect the media and uninformed commenters will far overblow concerns about this, without actually learning how it works and why it's private enough.

Re: What do I think about biometric proof of personhood?

#14

Buterin reminds me a little of string theorists in physics. There is a lot of intellect but they have chosen to chase something that doesn't produce anything really useful despite a ton of effort.

I remember a long time ago, on a talk by Benoit Mandelbrot, who visited my university in what may have well been a "Farewell Tour"

that towards the end he says: but the only "practical" application is gaming financial markets, and proceeded to talk about his work in this area; or something like this, my memory is a bit vague. I remember feeling disappointment.

Re: What do I think about biometric proof of personhood?

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post #11

I still haven't seen anyone address the question of how the orb will determine that I am one person, and not two one-eyed persons. It seems like by chosing something that most people have two of, people can easily create a left and right identity. maybe it should be a nose orb

Primary and backup accounts is a feature not a bug.

Re: What do I think about biometric proof of personhood?

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post #2

It's rare to find a technology that's so creepy & exploitative, yet also so fundamentally without utility.

It’s been good for consolidating votes around a crypto crackdown, engaging the evangelical right and privacy-sensitive left in a focussed manner.

Re: What do I think about biometric proof of personhood?

#17

Buterin reminds me a little of string theorists in physics. There is a lot of intellect but they have chosen to chase something that doesn't produce anything really useful despite a ton of effort.

On the other hand, we have seen an infusion of cash into modern cryptography thanks to this space, which is fairly positive. I personally don't mind.

Re: What do I think about biometric proof of personhood?

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I think that’s dead on arrival in the US. Having been raised in a conservative evangelical church, there’s the notion that in the “end times”, this kind of thing (referred to as the “mark of the Beast”) would be required to buy and sell goods, at the cost of eternal damnation for getting the mark. The linked webpage is nightmare fuel for the many tens of millions of Americans in such churches. Everything about it is a giant “here come the end times!” dog whistle, even if it wasn’t meant to be.

Also, why do we suddenly need to prove who’s an actual human? Is that going to change how I talk to chatbots on company websites? Is there the laughable notion that this won’t be immediately subverted by social media bot accounts so they can prove that they’re real people? What exact problem does this solve?

Also also, sucks if you’re blind, I guess. Now having eyes is new our fundamental definition of being a human. I’ll snag a few of these for my pets, who’ll be happy to know they can be official people on the Internet.

Re: What do I think about biometric proof of personhood?

#19
Complete reliance on biometrics to establish “personhood” is not only ableist but also opens some really frightening doors to future bad actors, like the removal of eyes as a means to revoke access/rights.

Let’s reduce an oppressor’s canvas of options rather than extend it further into our bodies.

Re: What do I think about biometric proof of personhood?

#20

Complete reliance on biometrics to establish “personhood” is not only ableist but also opens some really frightening doors to future bad actors, like the removal of eyes as a means to revoke access/rights. Let’s reduce an oppressor’s canvas of options rather than extend it further into our bodies.

Tom Cruise films are prescient as ever.
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