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Project Aria 'Digital Twin' Dataset by Meta

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First thing I notice while browsing from EU is that there's only one option regarding cookies. Accept all! Even if I click "Learn more" there's no "accept necessary cookies" or "Reject cookies". First time I encounter something like this.

That's a common dark pattern.

Dark pattern is a term normally used for legal, but immoral user experience. In this case legality is questionable as they redirect you to other external sites to manage your "consent" https://optout.aboutads.info (at least from a European GDPR perspective)

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#12
post #9

First thing I notice while browsing from EU is that there's only one option regarding cookies. Accept all! Even if I click "Learn more" there's no "accept necessary cookies" or "Reject cookies". First time I encounter something like this.

I have to admit, for technical folks like ourselves, I don't understand why you care what options the dialog presents. Just use a "Kill Sticky" plugin to nuke the stupid dialog so you can read the page, or even Accept them, and then instruct your browser to do whatever you like with the cookies the site creates (i.e. delete them). It's all in your hands, the popup dialog doesn't do anything you can't do yourself.

you should care because often this agreement is not about the technical detail of cookies, but allowing the company you are interacting with to share data about you with 3rd parties.

Re: Project Aria 'Digital Twin' Dataset by Meta

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First thing I notice while browsing from EU is that there's only one option regarding cookies. Accept all! Even if I click "Learn more" there's no "accept necessary cookies" or "Reject cookies". First time I encounter something like this.

Isn't that a GDPR violation since they're not allowed to prevent access if you refuse to share data not necessary for the service to function? Since it's from Meta I suspect regulators would enjoy another thing to add to the list for future fine calculations.

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#14
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to admit, for technical folks like ourselves, I don't understand why you care what options the dialog presents. Just use a "Kill Sticky" plugin to nuke the stupid dialog so you can read the page, or even Accept them, and then instruct your browser to do whatever you like with the cookies the site creates (i.e. delete them). It's all in your hands, the popup dialog doesn't do anything you can't do yourself.

you should care because often this agreement is not about the technical detail of cookies, but allowing the company you are interacting with to share data about you with 3rd parties.

If you think which HTML div element you click on to dismiss a sticky banner has any bearing whatsoever on how your data is handled server-side, I've got a trip to the Titanic in an Oceangate submersible to sell you.

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post #9

First thing I notice while browsing from EU is that there's only one option regarding cookies. Accept all! Even if I click "Learn more" there's no "accept necessary cookies" or "Reject cookies". First time I encounter something like this.

I have to admit, for technical folks like ourselves, I don't understand why you care what options the dialog presents. Just use a "Kill Sticky" plugin to nuke the stupid dialog so you can read the page, or even Accept them, and then instruct your browser to do whatever you like with the cookies the site creates (i.e. delete them). It's all in your hands, the popup dialog doesn't do anything you can't do yourself.

Learned helplessness. Teach the citizens that the only thing protecting them from the Big Scary Internet is their benevolent government. Meanwhile the politicians collect millions from the mass media companies that lobbied for the god-awful implementation of the law we all ended up with, and as everyone gets worn down into Accepting All always, they simultaneously forget that their User Agent holds all the cards (or in this case, cookies), and it can be instructed to do anything the User wants with them.

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First thing I notice while browsing from EU is that there's only one option regarding cookies. Accept all! Even if I click "Learn more" there's no "accept necessary cookies" or "Reject cookies". First time I encounter something like this.

> First time I encounter something like this.

Facebook itself use to have this exact banner with no alternative until they were strong-armed to properly comply with GDPR.

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post #10

Genuine question: What is an egocentric data set? Eli5 please? What can this be used for?

Egocentric means that the sensors frame of reference is the same as the ego (self). The person walking around is wearing the sensors/glasses themselves & their pose is given as “ego pose”. This dataset is clearly targeted for research on AR/XR/VR applications.

+1

I’ll “yes and” here…beyond AR/VR a more powerful use case is multi-modal learning (with RL) which is what Meta is probably the leader in IMO.

Example paper here: “ Towards Continual Egocentric Activity Recognition: A Multi-modal Egocentric Activity Dataset for Continual Learning”

https://arxiv.org/abs/2301.10931

This IMO is the pathway to AGI, as it combines all sense-plan-do data into a time coordinated stream and mimics how humans transfer learning to children via demonstration recording and behavior authoring.

If we can create robotics with locomotion and dexterous manipulation, egocentric exploration, and a behavior authoring loop that uses human behavior demonstration and trajectory reinforcement - well, we’ll have the AI we’ve been all talking about.

Probably the most exciting area of research that most people don’t know or care about.

That’s why head mounted all day ego centric AR is so important - it gives eyes ears and sense perception to our learning systems with human directed egocentric behaviors, guiding the whole thing. Just like pushing your kid down the street in the stroller.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a common dark pattern.

It’s not really a dark pattern because they’re not tricking you into accepting or coercing more than is acceptable into doing so, they’re just not allowing you to decline. Which means if not accepting cookies is a dealbreaker for you, no problem, just: move along.

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Re: Project Aria 'Digital Twin' Dataset by Meta

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to admit, for technical folks like ourselves, I don't understand why you care what options the dialog presents. Just use a "Kill Sticky" plugin to nuke the stupid dialog so you can read the page, or even Accept them, and then instruct your browser to do whatever you like with the cookies the site creates (i.e. delete them). It's all in your hands, the popup dialog doesn't do anything you can't do yourself.

Learned helplessness. Teach the citizens that the only thing protecting them from the Big Scary Internet is their benevolent government. Meanwhile the politicians collect millions from the mass media companies that lobbied for the god-awful implementation of the law we all ended up with, and as everyone gets worn down into Accepting All always, they simultaneously forget that their User Agent holds all the cards (or…

Did you just take a problem that free market tech created and blame it on the government? ;)

User agent sovereignty would be nice... except the most used browser and 1/2 of smartphones are controlled by Google, the largest ad tracking company on the planet.

We're way past the 90s.

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