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Canada Woos American H-1B Visa Holders Fed Up with U.S. Immigration System

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Re: Canada Woos American H-1B Visa Holders Fed Up with U.S. Immigration System

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Post by ryanseys »

howinteresting wrote: post #7
ryanseys wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a Canadian, currently stuck in the US immigration process, I chuckle at this remark. Also I-485's i.e. Green Cards, Permanent Residence status, in the US are based on where you are BORN not which citizenship(s) you have.

Yes but the goal is not to move to the US permanently, it is to make a ton of money here and then retire in Canada.

As an H-1B holder, we are legally entitled (and required) to work for one specific employer and that's it. You cannot even think of starting a company, you cannot work a gig job, you can't work two "high-paying" tech jobs.

Everyone knows the "ton of money" doesn't come from working a salaried job, it's from creating something new / starting a company.

But only US green card holders or US citizens can even dream of considering that as an option they can pursue.

Re: Canada Woos American H-1B Visa Holders Fed Up with U.S. Immigration System

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Post by TillE »

I can't imagine that America's byzantine visa system is accomplishing any useful policy goal, it's just a mess.

Compare to a country like Germany, where you can get a work visa, extend it indefinitely, and then roll it over into permanent residency after five years. No bullshit, no lotteries, you just meet the legal requirements and your applications are accepted in a matter of weeks.

Re: Canada Woos American H-1B Visa Holders Fed Up with U.S. Immigration System

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Post by jebarker »

ryanseys wrote: post #11
howinteresting wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes but the goal is not to move to the US permanently, it is to make a ton of money here and then retire in Canada.

As an H-1B holder, we are legally entitled (and required) to work for one specific employer and that's it. You cannot even think of starting a company, you cannot work a gig job, you can't work two "high-paying" tech jobs. Everyone knows the "ton of money" doesn't come from working a salaried job, it's from creating something new / starting a company. But only US green card holders or US citizens can even dream of co…

Ton of money is ill-defined, but it's quite possible to work a salaried job in tech in the US and achieve financial independence and an extremely high standard of living.

Re: Canada Woos American H-1B Visa Holders Fed Up with U.S. Immigration System

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Post by OO000oo »

TillE wrote: post #12

I can't imagine that America's byzantine visa system is accomplishing any useful policy goal, it's just a mess. Compare to a country like Germany, where you can get a work visa, extend it indefinitely, and then roll it over into permanent residency after five years. No bullshit, no lotteries, you just meet the legal requirements and your applications are accepted in a matter of weeks.

> I can't imagine that America's byzantine visa system is accomplishing any useful policy goal

I am positive it is. It works like most things in the US. The ruling class profits tremendously from the exploitation it enables, and American citizens are much too propagandized and alienated from politics to do anything about it.

Re: Canada Woos American H-1B Visa Holders Fed Up with U.S. Immigration System

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Post by doytch »

sharts wrote: post #14

Immigration aside, why don't these countries ever invest in their own citizens to level up?

Canada’s dealt with a brain drain problem to the US for a couple of decades at least. The amount of folks I know who got educated in Canada and eventually moved to the US due to CoL and salaries is significant.

It’s a shame.

Re: Canada Woos American H-1B Visa Holders Fed Up with U.S. Immigration System

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Post by [deleted] »

TillE wrote: post #12

I can't imagine that America's byzantine visa system is accomplishing any useful policy goal, it's just a mess. Compare to a country like Germany, where you can get a work visa, extend it indefinitely, and then roll it over into permanent residency after five years. No bullshit, no lotteries, you just meet the legal requirements and your applications are accepted in a matter of weeks.

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Re: Canada Woos American H-1B Visa Holders Fed Up with U.S. Immigration System

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Post by Kalium »

sharts wrote: post #14

Immigration aside, why don't these countries ever invest in their own citizens to level up?

Many of them do. Canada and India both have some excellent educational instutions. Yet there's often far more lucrative opportunities for an ambitious 20-something in the US than they can easily find in the location they may happen to already be in.

Leveling up is a long, slow process of decades. Immigration offers to improve someone's life a lot faster.

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