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Every safety regulation has an associated regulatory overhead tax on the cost of vehicles (and homes) due to the increased people/materials/machine/quality control/etc complexity.
It is great to raise the safety bar, but knowing it helps put new things out of price ranges is a trade off.
There are some lower-fidelity electric cars out there, such as the Dacia Spring or some of the very cheap Chinese cars. That being said, electric cars will always be more high tech than ICE cars because they have to. You will need a more or less fancy screen for finding charging stations and navigating them. You will need at least one app on your car or mobile for payments. You will need a mobile app connected with y…
Sorry but I don't understand your point. ICE cars also need gas stations, also need to pay for their fuel and also get cold when it's cold yet we've managed to do just fine for a long time without screens or even smartphones.
To be able to access a wide range of charging points, you will have to set up some accounts with multiple providers. There are more and more charging points that support debit cards because they have been made mandatory in several countries, but it is still recommended to register with at least one provider to get lower charging prices. Not all charging points require an account, but you'll still need an app.
Again, this is just not the same experience and process as with ICE cars – you could somehow try to replicate it, but you will find that those "high tech features" make life easier.
> and also get cold when it's cold
Which isn't a problem because an ICE car doesn't lose a third of its range when it's cold, as opposed to an EV.
Little known secret --- "fancy screens" are often used as marketing gimmicks but they can actually reduce the manufacturing cost of modern autos. In an environment where control systems are already digital/computerized for valid functional reasons, adding a display screen is more cost effective than analog instruments. I am old school and I prefer the analog style; however, it is fairly easy to simulate analog instru…
There are some lower-fidelity electric cars out there, such as the Dacia Spring or some of the very cheap Chinese cars. That being said, electric cars will always be more high tech than ICE cars because they have to. You will need a more or less fancy screen for finding charging stations and navigating them. You will need at least one app on your car or mobile for payments. You will need a mobile app connected with y…
> You will need a more or less fancy screen for finding charging stations and navigating them I would imagine the venn diagram in the us of people with electric cars but no smartphone is pretty small. > You will need a mobile app connected with your car for pre-conditioning and bringing the battery to operating temperature. Now I warm up my car by going outside and turning the key. My wife's car has a remote starter.…
So you do need proper route planning, charging point information and range prediction anyway. What would be the benefit of completely outsourcing this to a smartphone? Is having one additional device really going to make things easier and less brittle? Why shouldn't this be done by the car if it can be done by the car?
> Now I warm up my car by going outside and turning the key. My wife's car has a remote starter. Why do I need a screen or app in my car?
You don't need a screen or app in your car. You need the app on the smartphone. That's your remote starter.
Little known secret --- "fancy screens" are often used as marketing gimmicks but they can actually reduce the manufacturing cost of modern autos. In an environment where control systems are already digital/computerized for valid functional reasons, adding a display screen is more cost effective than analog instruments. I am old school and I prefer the analog style; however, it is fairly easy to simulate analog instru…
Which manufacturers are doing it well in your opinion?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWlnOW2JEko
They sorta mimiced the digital dash from the Mercedes S-Class for a fraction of the cost.
https://st.motortrendenespanol.com/uploads/sites/45/2017/04/...
I hate the big fugly, poorly integrated screen offset to the middle that looks like someone glued a tablet to the dash (think Tesla and lots of others here). Marketing over function in my opinion.
It has an 80 mile range, which is fine for everything around the region, and my family has a gas car anyway. The 80 mile range keeps the prices pretty low, too. Highly recommended for a nearly free-to-use EV without the techno stuff.
(We also have a 2015 Leaf SL, the top trim, and it has the touchscreen stuff. SL has 360 camera, leather seats, fancy sound system and that’s about it. Get the S. It’s all you need.)
Little known secret --- "fancy screens" are often used as marketing gimmicks but they can actually reduce the manufacturing cost of modern autos. In an environment where control systems are already digital/computerized for valid functional reasons, adding a display screen is more cost effective than analog instruments. I am old school and I prefer the analog style; however, it is fairly easy to simulate analog instru…
If you already need to have the screen there, you might as well cram a bunch of other functions into it as well.
There are some lower-fidelity electric cars out there, such as the Dacia Spring or some of the very cheap Chinese cars. That being said, electric cars will always be more high tech than ICE cars because they have to. You will need a more or less fancy screen for finding charging stations and navigating them. You will need at least one app on your car or mobile for payments. You will need a mobile app connected with y…
I very much hope this has stopped being true by the time I can afford an electric car! I hate dealing with apps... what was wrong with ordinary bank cards?
