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Uber warns drivers against avoiding 'disadvantaged' areas

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Re: Uber warns drivers against avoiding 'disadvantaged' areas

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When certain "no-go" areas are so dangerous that neither police, ambulance, or fire fighters will go there (alone), I certainly don't expect Uber drivers to go there either - even if the corporate overlords are are insisting on it.

Can you add a source for this? I've been able to find plenty of resources about dangerous SF areas, but not a news article on restricted public services there. Would be super interested in learning more

Re: Uber warns drivers against avoiding 'disadvantaged' areas

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This article is over three years old.

My bad! Didn't see that before submitting. (For anyone reading this comment, the article is from March 2020). This is my first submission & I don't see age in the submissions guide; is there a specific way I should indicate its age?

Re: Uber warns drivers against avoiding 'disadvantaged' areas

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Uber already have different options for vehicles bigger, ability to haul equipment, luxury, etc... so how about embrace this issue by having a class of armored vehicle for rough neighborhoods? Call it the "Presidential Service". Or pay former bouncers and ex gang members extra to service these areas. If there is a policy against this make an exception for this category and add disclaimers. Probably not a wonderful id…

I think the trouble is the overlap of high-crime and high-diversity areas. Say you're sending an armored vehicle into a high-crime area and it's reasonable protection. Someone writes a news article about having expensive & specially trained drivers required in the poorest minority communities and it's a major PR issue. Depends on who gets control of the narrative.

Isn't this overlap more due to poverty rather than "high-diversity" as you put it?

Re: Uber warns drivers against avoiding 'disadvantaged' areas

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the trouble is the overlap of high-crime and high-diversity areas. Say you're sending an armored vehicle into a high-crime area and it's reasonable protection. Someone writes a news article about having expensive & specially trained drivers required in the poorest minority communities and it's a major PR issue. Depends on who gets control of the narrative.

Isn't this overlap more due to poverty rather than "high-diversity" as you put it?

The actual cause of the overlap is probably due to [generational] poverty; diversity itself doesn't cause crime. I have no idea where you even read that in my comment.

I'm trying to point out that it is beneficial to some groups to frame it as only-crime (if trying to defend treating the area differently), and beneficial to other groups to treat it as only-diversity (if trying to punish those who treat the area differently).

Re: Uber warns drivers against avoiding 'disadvantaged' areas

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That sounds like something you could reasonably demand of employees, but not contractors like Uber drivers.

From the IRS: "A worker who is required to comply with instructions about when, where, and how to work is ordinarily an employee." Sure seems like you are correct.

I suppose that's why Uber is phrasing this as a request, but it still seems like trying to have their cake and eat it too.
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