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Google’s head of AR software quits, citing “unstable commitment and vision”

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Re: Google’s head of AR software quits, citing “unstable commitment and vision”

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It's always amazing to me to see people bad mouthing their former employers in this way. Either you're burning bridges or you're not, and this kind of comment seems like a "you won't be employed there again" comment, but if you're going to do that why hold back?

He's a VP. They have nothing for him. He's telling them the price if they want him back.

Re: Google’s head of AR software quits, citing “unstable commitment and vision”

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No one wants AR outside of niché applications. Regular people have no interest in walking around with AR headsets.

I saw a 3D overlay AR experience that some people were doing at the Minoan palace of Knossos in Greece. It’s a large multi-level outdoor space. They were walking around with tablets with huge sunshades because of the incredibly bright Cretan sun. I don’t know what they thought of it but they did use it quite a bit. I think you’re better off seeing the ruins, and then seeing a recreated physical 3D model (which they did have at the accompanying museum), or a short film exploring the space. I could imagine that if we squeezed all the AR stuff into the size of regular glasses, this sort of experience might have more take. But maybe it’s just better to see ruins as ruins first and let your imagination do the rest?

I could imagine things like turn by turn directions being useful in a nice AR product but that’s just one thing…

As I keep saying in my HN comments, I just don’t think people want the AR/VR form factor.

Re: Google’s head of AR software quits, citing “unstable commitment and vision”

#13
post #8

It's always amazing to me to see people bad mouthing their former employers in this way. Either you're burning bridges or you're not, and this kind of comment seems like a "you won't be employed there again" comment, but if you're going to do that why hold back?

Honestly, if your first reaction to someone doing this is to never hire them again, you’re going to surround yourself with people that will never tell you when you’re fucking up.

Re: Google’s head of AR software quits, citing “unstable commitment and vision”

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post #12

No one wants AR outside of niché applications. Regular people have no interest in walking around with AR headsets. I saw a 3D overlay AR experience that some people were doing at the Minoan palace of Knossos in Greece. It’s a large multi-level outdoor space. They were walking around with tablets with huge sunshades because of the incredibly bright Cretan sun. I don’t know what they thought of it but they did use it q…

I want AR that can overlay a screen inside the lens of my prescription glasses. Putting aside the impracticality of my desire, I can imagine it being more useful than my iPhone.

Then I imagine all of the corporations vying to build AR/VR headsets and remind myself that they will never be able to build a product that I want to buy. It will be ad-riddle junk, running on a closed software ecosystem, using proprietary hardware, that treats its users as a product to be controlled and monetized.

Someone please prove me wrong.

Re: Google’s head of AR software quits, citing “unstable commitment and vision”

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post #13
post #8

It's always amazing to me to see people bad mouthing their former employers in this way. Either you're burning bridges or you're not, and this kind of comment seems like a "you won't be employed there again" comment, but if you're going to do that why hold back?

Honestly, if your first reaction to someone doing this is to never hire them again, you’re going to surround yourself with people that will never tell you when you’re fucking up.

There's a difference between constructive and necessary feedback delivered discretely, and destructive unnecessary feedback deliverd in public. Do you think this public statement is going to be more effective than a serious considered conversation with senior management before he left? I don't think so. What purpose does making this public serve other than to try and raise his own profile?

Re: Google’s head of AR software quits, citing “unstable commitment and vision”

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post #12

No one wants AR outside of niché applications. Regular people have no interest in walking around with AR headsets. I saw a 3D overlay AR experience that some people were doing at the Minoan palace of Knossos in Greece. It’s a large multi-level outdoor space. They were walking around with tablets with huge sunshades because of the incredibly bright Cretan sun. I don’t know what they thought of it but they did use it q…

> I just don’t think people want the AR/VR form factor.

Google is only pursuing what advertisers want. Most product changes to Youtube, Google search etc are for the benefit of advertisers and copyright holders, not end-users.

AR at Google will be just another canvas they'll try to optimize for ad delivery.

Re: Google’s head of AR software quits, citing “unstable commitment and vision”

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> Google had shifted its focus to "creating software platforms for AR that it hopes to license to other manufacturers building headsets." Assuming that AR/VR is a viable market, then this strategy seems short-sighted. The ios platform is smaller than android and typically more profitable because of it's target market. Sure Google has search, but this is just another area in which it's ceding ground because it can't c…

This seems pretty standard for Google though no? Sure they've gradually started to do more and more in meatspace across certain domains but their focus on the whole has almost always been to leverage their ability to make software first and foremost unless hardware seemed like a necessary wedge to open a door.

Im still waiting for Google to sunset search. Just to filter out some of that detached metric management.

Re: Google’s head of AR software quits, citing “unstable commitment and vision”

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, if your first reaction to someone doing this is to never hire them again, you’re going to surround yourself with people that will never tell you when you’re fucking up.

There's a difference between constructive and necessary feedback delivered discretely, and destructive unnecessary feedback deliverd in public. Do you think this public statement is going to be more effective than a serious considered conversation with senior management before he left? I don't think so. What purpose does making this public serve other than to try and raise his own profile?

Yes actually. If you believe that your management chain is ignoring you, in a public company you’re looking out for the shareholders by making a case for ineffective management.

I’m not saying that’s happening here. But you asked for what purpose does making this public serve.

Re: Google’s head of AR software quits, citing “unstable commitment and vision”

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post #13
post #8

It's always amazing to me to see people bad mouthing their former employers in this way. Either you're burning bridges or you're not, and this kind of comment seems like a "you won't be employed there again" comment, but if you're going to do that why hold back?

Honestly, if your first reaction to someone doing this is to never hire them again, you’re going to surround yourself with people that will never tell you when you’re fucking up.

Corporations aren't people and if you bad mouth the company, especially in a way that gets press attention, someone in HR will put a mark on your record. Either a no hire, or a "requires executive approval", neither is helpful in future job applications. That said I didn't realize this was apparently a VP position, and execs live in their own consequence free world.

Re: Google’s head of AR software quits, citing “unstable commitment and vision”

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a difference between constructive and necessary feedback delivered discretely, and destructive unnecessary feedback deliverd in public. Do you think this public statement is going to be more effective than a serious considered conversation with senior management before he left? I don't think so. What purpose does making this public serve other than to try and raise his own profile?

Yes actually. If you believe that your management chain is ignoring you, in a public company you’re looking out for the shareholders by making a case for ineffective management. I’m not saying that’s happening here. But you asked for what purpose does making this public serve.

He doesn't work there any more, he doesn't have an obligation to the share holders and publicly trashing management is as likely to lower the share price as to raise it.
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