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Re: Interaction to Next Paint (INP)

#11

The real metric: INP with ad blocking enabled. Example: NYTimes.com on Mobile Safari with AdGuard. 18 seconds. Google is being really disingenuous with its so called metrics. A stroke of the pen could make INP 200ms across the top 500 sites.

> Example: NYTimes.com on Mobile Safari with AdGuard. 18 seconds.

Dear lord, I can't imagine that's the fault of NYTimes. Something is off with your setup.

NYTimes.com is super quick and responsive on my devices.

Re: Interaction to Next Paint (INP)

#12
post #10

We started seeing reports about it in GSC early July, when over a single day all our scores turned to crap with no explanation. We are in the yellow, but the biggest culprits for blocking time are...Google Tag Manager, GAds (and Ganalytics where we still have it). So yeah, thanks Google, can't wait to lose on SEO due to your own products. And also, thanks for releasing this without the proper analysis tooling. ( http…

>We are in the yellow, but and biggest culprits for blocking time are...Google Tag Manager, GAds and GAnalytics.

This has been the case for over a decade with Google's "Lighthouse" analysis tool as well. I used to use it as part of a site analysis suite for my clients - a good portion of the time, my smaller clients would end up deciding to replace Google Analytics entirely with a different product because of it.

Re: Interaction to Next Paint (INP)

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post #12
post #10

We started seeing reports about it in GSC early July, when over a single day all our scores turned to crap with no explanation. We are in the yellow, but the biggest culprits for blocking time are...Google Tag Manager, GAds (and Ganalytics where we still have it). So yeah, thanks Google, can't wait to lose on SEO due to your own products. And also, thanks for releasing this without the proper analysis tooling. ( http…

>We are in the yellow, but and biggest culprits for blocking time are...Google Tag Manager, GAds and GAnalytics. This has been the case for over a decade with Google's "Lighthouse" analysis tool as well. I used to use it as part of a site analysis suite for my clients - a good portion of the time, my smaller clients would end up deciding to replace Google Analytics entirely with a different product because of it.

With SEO it's entirely the case of Google being Google and just doing whatever they fancy. Core changes aren't often to the benefit of the scene these days. The little space that isn't paid ads is often useless these days.

I don't think the generative AI results they're going to do will be much better either.

Re: Interaction to Next Paint (INP)

#14

The real metric: INP with ad blocking enabled. Example: NYTimes.com on Mobile Safari with AdGuard. 18 seconds. Google is being really disingenuous with its so called metrics. A stroke of the pen could make INP 200ms across the top 500 sites.

Google is an ad company. Why would they make metrics that penalize ads?

Re: Interaction to Next Paint (INP)

#15

The real metric: INP with ad blocking enabled. Example: NYTimes.com on Mobile Safari with AdGuard. 18 seconds. Google is being really disingenuous with its so called metrics. A stroke of the pen could make INP 200ms across the top 500 sites.

> Example: NYTimes.com on Mobile Safari with AdGuard. 18 seconds. Dear lord, I can't imagine that's the fault of NYTimes. Something is off with your setup. NYTimes.com is super quick and responsive on my devices.

What "setup"? Parent said Mobile Safari. The setup come off of the factory as a given.

Re: Interaction to Next Paint (INP)

#17

The real metric: INP with ad blocking enabled. Example: NYTimes.com on Mobile Safari with AdGuard. 18 seconds. Google is being really disingenuous with its so called metrics. A stroke of the pen could make INP 200ms across the top 500 sites.

The NY times website on mobile Safari with AdGuard feels perfectly normal on my iPhone 13.

Do you observe the same behaviour in private mode? Something goes wrong on your device.

Re: Interaction to Next Paint (INP)

#20

Starts strong: > Chrome usage data shows that 90% of a user's time on a page is spent after it loads Clearly impressive, breakthrough, research going on at Google.

Less obvious than you think. How long do you spend on the HN front page? When you open say Gitlab how often do you stay there and not immediately click to something else?
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