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Re: The open source Mailchimp alternative

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Post by pollux01 »

ssddanbrown wrote: post #10

Having licensing based upon environment variable value is very odd. From the readme: > Bespoke is MIT licensed for env variabe OPEN_SOURCE=true > Bespoke Cloud is Business Source Licenced for env variable OPEN_SOURCE=false > You will be violating our Business Source Licence if you have the environment variable OPEN_SOURCE=false I would personally be uncomfortable using any software licensed in this manner, since you'…

Yeah! go for it! no problem patching it out!

Right now this was the only method I could come up with to release thing faster. I might think this through a little longer.

Thanks for the feedback :)

Re: The open source Mailchimp alternative

#13

Post by appleflaxen »

pollux01 wrote: post #11
ssddanbrown wrote: post #10

Having licensing based upon environment variable value is very odd. From the readme: > Bespoke is MIT licensed for env variabe OPEN_SOURCE=true > Bespoke Cloud is Business Source Licenced for env variable OPEN_SOURCE=false > You will be violating our Business Source Licence if you have the environment variable OPEN_SOURCE=false I would personally be uncomfortable using any software licensed in this manner, since you'…

Yeah! go for it! no problem patching it out! Right now this was the only method I could come up with to release thing faster. I might think this through a little longer. Thanks for the feedback :)

Consider whether you might want to release it as AGPL3, and offer a proprietary license for a fee.

That prevents a private company from forking a closed source version without paying you.

Re: The open source Mailchimp alternative

#14

Post by yawnxyz »

pollux01 wrote: post #4
hypercube33 wrote: post #3

Self hosting email generally sucks because of all of the block lists and anti spam - how does this project help avoid that? I think one of the selling points of MailChimp is they handle this side of the house for bulk mailing but I am not a user or the target market so I could be way off.

Ohh yup, you are correct, to solve this problem, we don't do our own email server but use an external service. Right now Bespoke uses AWS SES to send emails. To self host it you need an AWS SES account. We have added a guide in the docs on how to do that easily. In the future we might make it much more simple, so you can just opt into any smtp service and start sending emails.

Could you please add Mailgun or better yet, a way for us to write our own adapters / plugins to our own existing mail APIs and infra?

Re: The open source Mailchimp alternative

#15

Post by pollux01 »

yawnxyz wrote: post #14
pollux01 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ohh yup, you are correct, to solve this problem, we don't do our own email server but use an external service. Right now Bespoke uses AWS SES to send emails. To self host it you need an AWS SES account. We have added a guide in the docs on how to do that easily. In the future we might make it much more simple, so you can just opt into any smtp service and start sending emails.

Could you please add Mailgun or better yet, a way for us to write our own adapters / plugins to our own existing mail APIs and infra?

Yes! I would want that too, the blocking thing here are adding open, click, delivered events.

SES and Sendgrid makes this easy, listening to webhooks. We have to write our own wrapper.

Hopefully after next week. This weeks plans are to finish campaigns and segmentation and also create a Shopify Cutom app guide.

Re: The open source Mailchimp alternative

#16

Post by pollux01 »

appleflaxen wrote: post #13
pollux01 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah! go for it! no problem patching it out! Right now this was the only method I could come up with to release thing faster. I might think this through a little longer. Thanks for the feedback :)

Consider whether you might want to release it as AGPL3, and offer a proprietary license for a fee. That prevents a private company from forking a closed source version without paying you.

I thought the community hates AGPL3. I'm not sure why forking and setting env varaible as OPEN_SOURCE=true would be a hard thing to do.

Re: The open source Mailchimp alternative

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Post by pollux01 »

appleflaxen wrote: post #13
pollux01 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah! go for it! no problem patching it out! Right now this was the only method I could come up with to release thing faster. I might think this through a little longer. Thanks for the feedback :)

Consider whether you might want to release it as AGPL3, and offer a proprietary license for a fee. That prevents a private company from forking a closed source version without paying you.

I made it AGPL3 after your suggestion. Now everyone is happy I suppose

Re: The open source Mailchimp alternative

#19

Post by cascada »

pollux01 wrote: post #2

Heyo! I'm Afi, I have been working on Bespoke for the past 8 months. I have a good feeling about Bespoke and I think it can only reach it's true potential if it's only open source. My thoughts are below. Bespok's ultimate goals are as follows: -To engage in personalized marketing -To be trusted, because we do personlization When we mention personalization, it involves gathering extensive user data, such as their beha…

>MIT Licenced!

...said Afi and the very next day the license gets changed to AGPL-3.0

https://github.com/bespoke-surf/bespoke/commit/434dffe407b8a...

Re: The open source Mailchimp alternative

#20

Post by appleflaxen »

pollux01 wrote: post #16
appleflaxen wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consider whether you might want to release it as AGPL3, and offer a proprietary license for a fee. That prevents a private company from forking a closed source version without paying you.

I thought the community hates AGPL3. I'm not sure why forking and setting env varaible as OPEN_SOURCE=true would be a hard thing to do.

They do, because many in HN are entrepreneurs building platforms that don't want to open source their products that incorporate your code.

What authors don't realize is that they can still do that if you let them pay for a non GPL version.

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