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Goodreads was the future of book reviews, then Amazon bought it

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Re: Goodreads was the future of book reviews, then Amazon bought it

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This article starts off pretending to be a criticism of Amazon, and this is highlighted in the headline. After a few vague critical gestures towards Amazon in the first four paragraphs, it gets to its real point: Goodreads, a social network, has woefully inadequate censorship, which can lead to financial losses to authors and publishers. According the the WaPo, Amazon's crime with Goodreads seems to be that it hasn't…

That’s only true for extremely small values of “censorship”.

Re: Goodreads was the future of book reviews, then Amazon bought it

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Eh, Goodreads has always suffered from the same problem that plagues every other review system which uses "score out of X" ranking.

Humans just aren't very good at ranking things on a normal distribution, so you invariably end up with every item (books in this case) being ranked somewhere in the 3.5-4.5 range (since Goodreads is out of 5). For IMDB the rankings all hover around 8ish. When in reality the average book should have a 2.5. If you don't rate like this then you just end up with garbage.

Just allowing a boolean rating (ala Rotten Tomatoes when aggregated) is much better, assuming you can get enough reviews for that system to actually work (probably > 30 is required for most applications).

I think "aggregated personal Elo" would be a fun way to rank things: I just give you two books that you've read and you tell me which is better. Do this loads of times and eventually you have a solid ranking of every book you've ever read. Aggregate everyone's rankings and you have a much more robust system then "please rate this book out of 5 stars".

Re: Goodreads was the future of book reviews, then Amazon bought it

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Besides Goodreads falling into complete disarray, it is equally painful to know that Amazon owns the .book TLD (https://icannwiki.org/.book) and has yet to make that available to anyone.

A lot of Amazon's publishing-related acquisitions tend to stray from what they were intended to be.

Re: Goodreads was the future of book reviews, then Amazon bought it

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Goodreads had already stopped innovating before it was acquired by Amazon. What's sad is that they have a good user base, data on who reads what, I'm sure they could do a good recommendation engine, but somehow the closest they ended up with is poorly user curated lists.

Re: Goodreads was the future of book reviews, then Amazon bought it

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> By joining Amazon, Goodreads has accelerated their mission to delight customers with the help of Amazon’s resources and technology. Seriously, reading the diarrhea vomited out by corporate PR shills nowadays seriously makes my teeth hurt. Do those people actually believe the bullshit they're spouting to the general public?

No. Most of the political and corporate apparatus communicates as an occupation, what they believe has no correlation with what they say.

Re: Goodreads was the future of book reviews, then Amazon bought it

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Goodreads wasn't "the future of book reviews", it was a good review site that might have innovated great new things or might not have at all. But regardless, Amazon should never have been allowed to acquire it -- it was incredibly anti-competitive. Amazon never wanted to do anything with Goodreads at all -- as demonstrated by the fact that it hasn't done anything. It was a purely defensive move to prevent anyone else…

I think this is correct. The acquisition was anti-competitive, and Lina Khan's FTC would probably challenge it.

Re: Goodreads was the future of book reviews, then Amazon bought it

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post #11

This article starts off pretending to be a criticism of Amazon, and this is highlighted in the headline. After a few vague critical gestures towards Amazon in the first four paragraphs, it gets to its real point: Goodreads, a social network, has woefully inadequate censorship, which can lead to financial losses to authors and publishers. According the the WaPo, Amazon's crime with Goodreads seems to be that it hasn't…

That’s only true for extremely small values of “censorship”.

The values that include commenting on writing in general aren't small to most people. I can't imagine a larger value.

edit: hopefully somebody reading the WaPo has some sort of connection to Amazon, and can really commit to making sure that people's inappropriate opinions on the quality of books, the subjects of books, or whether books should have been written at all - will be corrected promptly and repeat offenders banned in future.

Re: Goodreads was the future of book reviews, then Amazon bought it

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I interviewed with Goodreads in 2012. If there's one thing I learned it's that when you give people weird gimmick problems ("How many Starbucks are there in Manhattan?") in an 8 hour interview that was supposed to be 2 hours, you're going to produce an awful lot of ill will when you reject people because they're "too technical". The whole thing was the most bizarre interview experience of my life.
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