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All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

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Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

#11
At the dawn of browser sync technologies, it was possible to self host a Firefox sync server. I think I remember there was a component for authentication and one for storage proper. You could use each one of them, or both.

Is this still a thing? How would today's firefox handle a custom sync server?

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

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post #11

At the dawn of browser sync technologies, it was possible to self host a Firefox sync server. I think I remember there was a component for authentication and one for storage proper. You could use each one of them, or both. Is this still a thing? How would today's firefox handle a custom sync server?

As far as I know you can still self-host Firefox sync.

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

#15

Even though I have a firefox account, I'm glad I have moved off Pocket (to Readwise Reader). I don't want all my accounts joined. I don't want a threat model where being locked out of one service takes down everything, especially when that service has no support. This applies to gmail and Mozilla equally.

It will be $8 a month if you signup during the beta and pay yearly. Seems kinda steep if you're just using Pocket as a "read later" tool that scrapes the page.

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

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post #11

At the dawn of browser sync technologies, it was possible to self host a Firefox sync server. I think I remember there was a component for authentication and one for storage proper. You could use each one of them, or both. Is this still a thing? How would today's firefox handle a custom sync server?

It'd handle it fine, considering that's still an option. The account hosting side of things is a little trickier but it's doable.

https://mozilla-services.readthedocs.io/en/latest/howtos/run...

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

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post #11

At the dawn of browser sync technologies, it was possible to self host a Firefox sync server. I think I remember there was a component for authentication and one for storage proper. You could use each one of them, or both. Is this still a thing? How would today's firefox handle a custom sync server?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34674569

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

#18

Even though I have a firefox account, I'm glad I have moved off Pocket (to Readwise Reader). I don't want all my accounts joined. I don't want a threat model where being locked out of one service takes down everything, especially when that service has no support. This applies to gmail and Mozilla equally.

Readwise looks really good, but I have a hard time understanding the value proposition. For the full application with the Readwise Reader it is 9 dollars a month. Then again its certainly worth more than a blue check-mark.

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

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post #11

At the dawn of browser sync technologies, it was possible to self host a Firefox sync server. I think I remember there was a component for authentication and one for storage proper. You could use each one of them, or both. Is this still a thing? How would today's firefox handle a custom sync server?

Theoretically - yes.

Practically, it's poorly documented clusterfuck of very confused technologies (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18448125). I hope they've possibly sorted that out over the years, but I don't have much hopes. Although they seem to went monorepo for FxA stuff (IIRC, it used to be that Accounts and Content services were separate). Still, no end-user docs - best you can get is assorted bunch of articles aimed at developers: https://mozilla.github.io/ecosystem-platform/tutorials/devel... - summing it up, it's a project that no one seem to have ever meant to be able to use outside of Mozilla, an ability to self-host it is an accident.

It used that one could've host a single simple program and have everything working. After switch to Firefox Accounts, trying to deploy all those services and their dependencies (and keeping up as it grew) quickly became complicated. I used to maintain my own half-assed almost-all-in-one re-implementation (https://gitlab.com/drdaeman/firesync, still required Kinto as a dependency), but I gave up.

Re: All Pocket accounts will be converted to Firefox accounts

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Even though I have a firefox account, I'm glad I have moved off Pocket (to Readwise Reader). I don't want all my accounts joined. I don't want a threat model where being locked out of one service takes down everything, especially when that service has no support. This applies to gmail and Mozilla equally.

I don't see it either for 108 USD/year. I get that they need to pay for servers, for developers and etc, but I pay less for Spotify and somehow they manage to license vast amount of content.
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