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Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News

#11

No thanks. I would much rather people downvote me when they disagree. If all I get is upvotes then what purpose would it serve to be here? That would imply we all think alike which would be silly and dangerous.

It's not for people who post personally to pad their egos. It's for marketing tech products and especially new SaaS platforms, to gain initial traction or give the appearance of an established and active community around it.

Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News

#12

No thanks. I would much rather people downvote me when they disagree. If all I get is upvotes then what purpose would it serve to be here? That would imply we all think alike which would be silly and dangerous.

There are many tech startup companies that pay for:

1. HN Upvotes 2. Product Hunt Upvotes 3. Github Stars

Why? Because it's all part of their marketing con. For some software companies, they rely on the hivemind to drive the purchase of their vaporware.

Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News

#14
It's interesting that the intellectual capacity here at HN acts as a "horseshit detector" pretty much subconsciously. This service does seem to offer a lot of upvotes (50 & 100), which one could argue can be bought to boost a story that has 100 organic upvotes already. But maybe dang has a built-in upvote spike monitor for this.

As for /new - it's pretty hard to get by that gate if you're making a blatant attempt of trying to get on the front page. And I think a lot of HN users would easily recall a time they flagged something on /new because it's clearly spam even if it doesn't look like it at first glance.

Now, the irony here would be if this is actually a gamed submission itself and the provider is showing that they can get your story on the front page regardless.

Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News

#15
If you troll around in "New" for long enough you'll see threads where some version of this happens - though it's impossible to tell of they are bought upvotes, fake accounts made by the poster, or just friends that were asked to come and post. You'll see some mediocre SaaS thing that's posted here and on Product hunt and a bunch of comments from new users like "Wow so exciting, great job!". They usually get flagged quickly. I have never seen something that I felt was suspect that didn't fall into the really blatant category, so either these guys are really good, or they suck.

It would be fun to use chatgpt to make some throwaway SaaS mvp and then get these guys to promote it to see what the experience is like (and then write it up for HN).

Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News

#16

No thanks. I would much rather people downvote me when they disagree. If all I get is upvotes then what purpose would it serve to be here? That would imply we all think alike which would be silly and dangerous.

Some people would pay good money to make a number on a forum go up.

Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News

#18
Is there a way to identify this behaviour? I am all for a platform which leans in on authentic discovery. ProductHunt and Reddit have long since been lost causes. HN did seem like holding out.

Being asked to defend your work in public and why it's worth being upvoted or talked about is something that folks building should have to go through.

Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News

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post #14

It's interesting that the intellectual capacity here at HN acts as a "horseshit detector" pretty much subconsciously. This service does seem to offer a lot of upvotes (50 & 100), which one could argue can be bought to boost a story that has 100 organic upvotes already. But maybe dang has a built-in upvote spike monitor for this. As for /new - it's pretty hard to get by that gate if you're making a blatant attempt of…

It would be interesting to hear more about how HN combats this, though I understand there probably needs to be some secrecy around it as giving away all of the details may make it easier for bad actors to know how to avoid detection.
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