Seems like the idea here is to provide a public API for third party integrations, which currently use a private API.
Like that other Elon Musk company!
Tesla Fleet Telemetry
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Re: Tesla Fleet Telemetry
#12> Fleet Telemetry is a server reference implementation. The service handles device connectivity, receives, and stores transmitted data. Once configured, devices establish a websocket connection to push configurable telemetry records. Fleet Telemetry provides clients with ack, error, or rate limit responses.
I assume this means that Tesla devices can be configured to speak the client end of this protocol, and that fleet operators might enable it. If so, that’s kind of neat.
Of course, it would be nice if Tesla telemetry non-fleet vehicles worked the same way and could be turned off.
Re: Tesla Fleet Telemetry
#13This is cool, I've been thinking about building an application that polls the reverse engineered Tesla API, but an officially supported solution sounds much better. Is there any documentation about how users authorize applications?
Seems like this allows vehicles to connect directly to your own server instead of having a Tesla server act as intermediary. Will it be free to use then? I guess Tesla is still footing the bill for cellular bandwidth used, so it probably won't be free.
Re: Tesla Fleet Telemetry
#14>At Tesla we believe that security and privacy are core tenets of any modern technology. Customers should be able to decide what data they share with third parties, how they share it, and when it can be shared. We've developed a decentralized framework: "Fleet Telemetry" that allows customers to create a secure and direct bridge from their Tesla devices to any provider they authorize. Complete non-sequitur. “We care…
>At Tesla we believe that security and privacy are core tenets of any modern technology.
Seeing this after the whistleblower/leak regarding Tesla employees having unfettered access to onboard camera footage (and that embarrassing/compromising footage of customers was actively shared internally) is... rich.
Re: Tesla Fleet Telemetry
#15>At Tesla we believe that security and privacy are core tenets of any modern technology. Customers should be able to decide what data they share with third parties, how they share it, and when it can be shared. We've developed a decentralized framework: "Fleet Telemetry" that allows customers to create a secure and direct bridge from their Tesla devices to any provider they authorize. Complete non-sequitur. “We care…
>At Tesla we believe that security and privacy are core tenets of any modern technology. Seeing this after the whistleblower/leak regarding Tesla employees having unfettered access to onboard camera footage (and that embarrassing/compromising footage of customers was actively shared internally) is... rich.
That sounds like a subtle mischaracterization of the leak to me. The leak sounded more like, "the teams responsible for tagging data uploaded by Teslas had access to data uploaded by Teslas". The fact that they could share them amongst themselves is also not particularly surprising.
While I understand the alarm, it was also completely unsurprising even based purely on the company's public statements about how they use data from the cameras.
Re: Tesla Fleet Telemetry
#16Seems like the idea here is to provide a public API for third party integrations, which currently use a private API.
Like that other Elon Musk company!
If you're referring to Twitter it actually has had a legendarily awful track record with API access. Reddit is trying its best to dethrone it though.
Re: Tesla Fleet Telemetry
#17I wonder if they started building this API to comply with the newer Massachusetts right to repair law, then just made it public when the feds told automakers to ignore the Massachusetts law.
Re: Tesla Fleet Telemetry
#18Every time Tesla refers to the cars they sold to customers as their ‘fleet’, I get the feeling they don’t really recognise they are no longer the owner of those vehicles.
Fleet as defined in Oxford Dictionary: “A number of vehicles or aircraft working together, or under the same ownership.”
(edit: use actual Oxford definition)
Re: Tesla Fleet Telemetry
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
>At Tesla we believe that security and privacy are core tenets of any modern technology. Seeing this after the whistleblower/leak regarding Tesla employees having unfettered access to onboard camera footage (and that embarrassing/compromising footage of customers was actively shared internally) is... rich.
That sounds like a subtle mischaracterization of the leak to me. The leak sounded more like, "the teams responsible for tagging data uploaded by Teslas had access to data uploaded by Teslas". The fact that they could share them amongst themselves is also not particularly surprising. While I understand the alarm, it was also completely unsurprising even based purely on the company's public statements about how they us…
I think few who enabled Sentry Mode thought it was reasonably likely that Tesla employees would share titillating personal moments spotted by their cars for the luls.
Re: Tesla Fleet Telemetry
#20>At Tesla we believe that security and privacy are core tenets of any modern technology. Customers should be able to decide what data they share with third parties, how they share it, and when it can be shared. We've developed a decentralized framework: "Fleet Telemetry" that allows customers to create a secure and direct bridge from their Tesla devices to any provider they authorize. Complete non-sequitur. “We care…
> “there ain’t nothing you can do about sharing your private data with us” FWIW there are settings in the car to disable certain things. Not sure how much it _actually_ disables though.
Disable and delete seem to just mean "hide from the end user" these days.