What a terrible ad laden website.
The new desktop Outlook is a bad idea
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Re: The new desktop Outlook is a bad idea
#12> businesses might stop purchasing newer versions of Microsoft Office if it doesn't come bundled with traditional Outlook.
I can't imagine someone who needs Excel dealing with non-Microsoft equivalents because Outlook is making its webapp its official app like Teams - and you could see the writing on the wall there for a long time.
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#13Can it inline quote emails properly on MacOS? The regular outlook client was still unable to do so in 2022, last time I tried.
I have no idea why people would like Outlook, it's an inferior experience compared to other email clients and calendar applications in my opinion. I can't even have my personal gmail calendar imported into my work calendar so nobody can schedule meetings for me when I'm picking up kids from a school event or have a dentist appointment. I have to sync calendars by hand.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
All Microsoft needed to do is look to the Apple Music app to know how bad an idea building it on WebView is. But, yeah, I wholeheartedly agree that they should either develop or use a native framework (Flutter perhaps?) rather than trying to shoehorn a technology that has never been very good for application development.
> All Microsoft needed to do is look to the Apple Music app to know how bad an idea building it on WebView is. Teams.
Teams is just a horrible product overall. It wouldn't be better with a completely native app.
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#15The main problem is that Microsoft is trying to use a WebView. If they really want a single cross-platform app, they should develop a native framework that will work everywhere instead of shoving everything into a web engine.
They already have MAUI. I don't have direct professional experience with it, but the message I'm getting from those who have used it, is that it's cumbersome. With people instead just sticking with XF/Uno/Avalonia (Avalonia being closer to Flutter in how it doesn't actually tap into the platform's native frameworks).
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#16The main problem is that Microsoft is trying to use a WebView. If they really want a single cross-platform app, they should develop a native framework that will work everywhere instead of shoving everything into a web engine.
vscode is an Electron app and is great and more responsive than its "native" competitor apps from JetBrains.
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#17What a terrible ad laden website.
That's what I was thinking. Funny to read criticism about usability and aesthetics from a website covered in popups and banner ads.
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#18What a terrible ad laden website.
I did not see any ads. Must be my adblock.
Re: The new desktop Outlook is a bad idea
#19The main problem is that Microsoft is trying to use a WebView. If they really want a single cross-platform app, they should develop a native framework that will work everywhere instead of shoving everything into a web engine.
PowerBI's UI runs off of WebView and it's the most frustrating thing. That whole software feels like someone mashed together different colors of play-doh and called it a new one. There are multiple ways to do the same thing within the software, but they have differing levels of efficiency. It's a Frankenstein's Monster of technologies bundled up into this lacking visualization software.
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#20At work I switched from the Outlook client app to the web version as soon as we migrated our email from on-prem Exchange to MS365 (cloud hosted).
Specifically, I get my email at outlook.office.com. Works great in Safari and Chrome on Mac.
Searching old emails is way faster and easier in the web version. It takes up no space on my machine, and there are not thousands of potentially sensitive emails sitting on the hard drive of a laptop I carry around. Way better all around.
I also run Teams in a Chrome tab instead of the Mac app. It runs way more efficiently that way for some reason.