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Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by delfinom »

lapcat wrote: post #5
cypress66 wrote: post #3

I can't believe the EU, which has fined Microsoft because of having IE as the default browser, is OK with Apple having a total walled garden in iOS. Which by the way only has one "browser", because other browsers are forced to use the safari engine.

> I can't believe the EU, which has fined Microsoft because of having IE as the default browser, is OK with Apple having a total walled garden in iOS. They aren't ok with it. The EU recently passed the Digital Markets Act. But some of the provisions don't take effect until 2024.

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Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by kiwiidb »

danpalmer wrote: post #4
cjpearson wrote: post #2

It's hard to see this appeal going anywhere. The app store guidelines even explicitly mention this use case as one that requires in-app purchases to be used. > Apps may use in-app purchase currencies to enable customers to “tip” the developer or digital content providers in the app. Apple lists the limited scenarios where alternative purchase methods can be used and this one is not included. Since they mention it in…

Yeah this case seems incredibly obvious, and I feel like any suggestion from the developer that they aren't violating the policies is disingenuous. Whether the policy is a good one or not is a fair question, but not one that App Store review will (or even can) answer, and trying to do anything there is barking up the wrong tree. The right place to challenge this sort of thing is likely with organisations like the FTC…

The developer had a meeting with Apple representatives where they assured him that tipping profiles would be okay so he adjusted his app so people would tip profiles instead of posts. Then they still rejected the app.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by enragedcacti »

cjpearson wrote: post #10
enragedcacti wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think the section you quote tells the whole story > If you want to unlock features or functionality within your app, (by way of example: subscriptions, in-game currencies, game levels, access to premium content, or unlocking a full version), you must use in-app purchase. > Apps may use in-app purchase currencies to enable customers to “tip” the developer or digital content providers in the app. Using "must" f…

Yes, I think their phrasing in that sentence is vague. It should be structured like the functionality one to make clear that tipping _may_ be added, but if implemented it _must_ use in-app purchases. However, since tipping is not listed in the exceptions, one should read it as not being allowed.

Agreed, from historical context it definitely seems like the intention was confirming for developers that tipping is a valid use case for IAP and not creating an exemption, but I can see why a motivated party would read it differently, and it is made even more confusing by the App Store review notice seemingly acknowledging that some tips are exempt.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by Varloom »

cypress66 wrote: post #3

I can't believe the EU, which has fined Microsoft because of having IE as the default browser, is OK with Apple having a total walled garden in iOS. Which by the way only has one "browser", because other browsers are forced to use the safari engine.

By May 2024 every iPhone in EU will be allowed to install alternative app stores legally.

It's only a problem for the rest of the world.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by colesantiago »

siwatanejo wrote: post #8

https://twitter.com/siwatanejo/status/1668585129374289925

The only issue with this is:

> I like crypto but think 99.999% of NFTs are scams

It is more like 100% are scams, there is no NFT use case, it's all just jpgs.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by postalrat »

tgv wrote: post #9
cypress66 wrote: post #3

I can't believe the EU, which has fined Microsoft because of having IE as the default browser, is OK with Apple having a total walled garden in iOS. Which by the way only has one "browser", because other browsers are forced to use the safari engine.

MS was fined because it had an enormous market share in personal computing, making it practically a monopoly. Apple is nowhere near that.

Apple has a sizable share of the mobile market in the USA and EU and what they are doing goes well beyond what MS did in the past.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by DennisP »

colesantiago wrote: post #16
siwatanejo wrote: post #8

https://twitter.com/siwatanejo/status/1668585129374289925

The only issue with this is: > I like crypto but think 99.999% of NFTs are scams It is more like 100% are scams, there is no NFT use case, it's all just jpgs.

Technically ENS names are NFTs, I'd say that's a non-scam use case equivalent to domain names.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by waihtis »

cypress66 wrote: post #3

I can't believe the EU, which has fined Microsoft because of having IE as the default browser, is OK with Apple having a total walled garden in iOS. Which by the way only has one "browser", because other browsers are forced to use the safari engine.

A bunch of bureaucrats somehow outsmarting one of the most well resourced and talented machineries out there is the thing I am skeptical about. The two systems are not equal by a long shot.
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