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RoboCat – A Self-Improving Robotic Agent

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Re: RoboCat – A Self-Improving Robotic Agent

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I had a more general noobish version of it in my head how all this plays out.

Now that AI based task planning can learn from so few examples and can do extremely general tasks like say the instruction:

"Summarize my gmail twice a day at 7:00 AM and 5:00 PM filtering spam and stuff I don't read" would spawn an agent with a plan to do exactly what you want. And if it could not you could show it once like "recording" a super smart "macro" only this time with AI agents instead of Selenium.

This would be an "inversion" of API way to do things. Pretty soon people are writing tons of these "bots" and multiple cases land in the some(supreme?) court over what is a bot and what is personal property.

Re: RoboCat – A Self-Improving Robotic Agent

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I had a more general noobish version of it in my head how all this plays out. Now that AI based task planning can learn from so few examples and can do extremely general tasks like say the instruction: "Summarize my gmail twice a day at 7:00 AM and 5:00 PM filtering spam and stuff I don't read" would spawn an agent with a plan to do exactly what you want. And if it could not you could show it once like "recording" a…

I mean I am not blind, there are plenty of no code platforms that work on B2B space. But nothing in the B2C for general purpose domain that do this in a privacy safe manner, at least not one that will shake up the tech companies.

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I really really really want to play with robotics at home, but I've discovered it's super expensive to get things like robotic arms at home. Are there robotics platforms that are DIY ready? I really just want to teach a robotic arm to make my coffee in the morning. And I'll apply my life's effort to achieving this only if the cost of the robotics platform is stupid low. Yes. I know that's absurd. :)

It’s just normally expensive, not really really expensive. You can get a robot arm for as cheap as 4k (comparable to 2 MacBooks or 1 GPU)

"...as cheap as..." doesn't really fit with an item that costs almost the 2020 median salary in the US.

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What more would it take for google to succeed at something like: "robot can plant, water and harvest food that only poor laborers from other countries did, replacing whole job categories in agro business along with other things like making blue collar immigration moot"?

Robots becoming 100x cheaper, or humans becoming 100x more expensive.

Unitree sells robot similar to Boston Dynamics Spot for $2700. If you add robotic gripper to it can do things like picking strawberries cheaper than minimum wage worker. Say if robot costs $3500 and minimum wage is $10/hour then robot needs to only complete 43 8-hour shifts over it's lifetime to displace human worker.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s just normally expensive, not really really expensive. You can get a robot arm for as cheap as 4k (comparable to 2 MacBooks or 1 GPU)

"...as cheap as..." doesn't really fit with an item that costs almost the 2020 median salary in the US.

What about median programmer salary?

Re: RoboCat – A Self-Improving Robotic Agent

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* After observing 1000 human-controlled demonstrations, collected in just hours, RoboCat could direct this new arm dexterously enough to pick up gears successfully 86% of the time. *

Interesting, but this doesn’t sound like something that can be useful. For practical industry applications, you need high success rates. Assume you are running operations where dropping/flips/damages to the items that a robot handles are costly and not acceptable.

Its only for a hobbyist pick-and-place, dropping a Lego block or wasting some components is not a big deal.

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* After observing 1000 human-controlled demonstrations, collected in just hours, RoboCat could direct this new arm dexterously enough to pick up gears successfully 86% of the time. * Interesting, but this doesn’t sound like something that can be useful. For practical industry applications, you need high success rates. Assume you are running operations where dropping/flips/damages to the items that a robot handles are…

> Assume you are running operations where dropping/flips/damages to the items that a robot handles are costly and not acceptable.

Alright, let's assume we're not too though, just for completeness sake.

Plenty of industrial applications where an 86% success rate is fine, especially if you can try more than once.

Re: RoboCat – A Self-Improving Robotic Agent

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* After observing 1000 human-controlled demonstrations, collected in just hours, RoboCat could direct this new arm dexterously enough to pick up gears successfully 86% of the time. * Interesting, but this doesn’t sound like something that can be useful. For practical industry applications, you need high success rates. Assume you are running operations where dropping/flips/damages to the items that a robot handles are…

> Assume you are running operations where dropping/flips/damages to the items that a robot handles are costly and not acceptable. Alright, let's assume we're not too though, just for completeness sake. Plenty of industrial applications where an 86% success rate is fine, especially if you can try more than once.

Do you have any obvious examples in mind?
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