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Canada's population reaches 40M

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Re: Canada's population reaches 40M

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Post by nickpeterson »

semihsalihoglu wrote: post #2

I've been living in Canada for 8 years and I generally heard people referring to "35M people", which I believe will soon change to "40M" people. Interesting that there is apparently a population clock that model's Canada's population: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/71-607-x/71-607-x2018005... See also the Century Initiative: https://www.centuryinitiative.ca/ to reach 100M by 2100.

Canada is going to have an absolutely blistering amount of immigration in the next few decades. Enjoy the sparseness while it lasts…

Re: Canada's population reaches 40M

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Post by andrewstuart »

Australia has dramatically increased its immigration intake.

750,000 this year and next, with 1.5 million in total coming in the next 5 years.

This huge number of people are being brought in during Australias worst ever housing crisis. The ALP government doesn’t care in the slightest. In fact it’s greatly to the advantage of the politicians, most of whom own 1/2/3/4/5/6 or more houses.

Re: Canada's population reaches 40M

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Post by semihsalihoglu »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #8
JimtheCoder wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet we have massive housing issues...

Name me a major western metro area with jobs and a good standard of living that doesn't. I remember people banging the drums 10 years agho "come to Berlin, there's so much empty houses". Yeah, that changed quickly.

This is a good point. There must be one though that other cities can look up to. I would guess Singapore does a good job on these problems. I would be curious to hear of the best examples of large cities that have done a better job on housing.

Re: Canada's population reaches 40M

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Post by chongli »

nickpeterson wrote: post #11
semihsalihoglu wrote: post #2

I've been living in Canada for 8 years and I generally heard people referring to "35M people", which I believe will soon change to "40M" people. Interesting that there is apparently a population clock that model's Canada's population: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/71-607-x/71-607-x2018005... See also the Century Initiative: https://www.centuryinitiative.ca/ to reach 100M by 2100.

Canada is going to have an absolutely blistering amount of immigration in the next few decades. Enjoy the sparseness while it lasts…

Canada is both dense and sparse. It’s paradoxical. Huge landmass. Almost everyone living in a thin slice near the U.S. border. We have massive housing issues all over the place.

Nobody’s building in the great wilderness above.

Re: Canada's population reaches 40M

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Post by mikrl »

semihsalihoglu wrote: post #5
bee_rider wrote: post #3

Congrats, Canada! This has alerted me to the (IMO, pretty surprising) fact that all of Canada holds fewer people than the BosWash corridor.

I am also amused that Ontario, which is the most populous province has the following statistics: Area: 1,076,395 km square Population: 15.3M Istanbul, which is the biggest city in my home country Turkiye has these: Area: 5,343 (so 200x smaller) Population: 18M (official census is ~16M but even the major cites 18M) I'm not even comparing the much denser places in the world (e.g., Gaza).

Ontario is culturally 2 provinces, southern and northern Ontario.

The north is what you normally think of Canada: rocks, trees and lakes. The south is similar to the neighbouring US states of Michigan, Ohio, and New York but with a distinct Canadian identity and a French region in the east.

Most of the population (13.4M) lives in the southern part (114,000 km^2)

Re: Canada's population reaches 40M

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Post by smcl »

nickpeterson wrote: post #11
semihsalihoglu wrote: post #2

I've been living in Canada for 8 years and I generally heard people referring to "35M people", which I believe will soon change to "40M" people. Interesting that there is apparently a population clock that model's Canada's population: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/71-607-x/71-607-x2018005... See also the Century Initiative: https://www.centuryinitiative.ca/ to reach 100M by 2100.

Canada is going to have an absolutely blistering amount of immigration in the next few decades. Enjoy the sparseness while it lasts…

It's the second largest country in the world. It has half the population of Germany and ~28x the land mass. Their problem will be actually building houses and making them affordable, not "sparseness"

Re: Canada's population reaches 40M

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Post by A_D_E_P_T »

slashdev wrote: post #10
NoRelToEmber wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems unsustainable. I thought the consensus was that environmental footprint should be reduced [1,2], not deliberately increased? [1] https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/12/want-to-... [2] https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/science-proves-kids-ar... Edit: As expected, the Century Initiative is chaired by corporate lobbyists, and closely tied to Blackrock, that has massive investments in Canadian…

This is not Canadians making babies, which they do below the replacement limit as in other developed countries. This is massive levels of immigration. Canadians do have a bigger per capita environment footprint, but still it’s really just moving people around. Whether those levels of immigration can be sustained without causing social problems is not yet known. Certainly housing is extremely unaffordable and taxes ar…

Not just below replacement -- far below.

Canada's TFR in 2020 was 1.4. https://www.statcan.gc.ca/o1/en/plus/960-fewer-babies-born-c...

And the last time TFR was above replacement was in 1970. Meaning Canada has been at below-replacement fertility for more than 50 years.

Canada's population, however, has doubled since 1970. That represents an extreme amount of immigration.

Re: Canada's population reaches 40M

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

semihsalihoglu wrote: post #5
bee_rider wrote: post #3

Congrats, Canada! This has alerted me to the (IMO, pretty surprising) fact that all of Canada holds fewer people than the BosWash corridor.

I am also amused that Ontario, which is the most populous province has the following statistics: Area: 1,076,395 km square Population: 15.3M Istanbul, which is the biggest city in my home country Turkiye has these: Area: 5,343 (so 200x smaller) Population: 18M (official census is ~16M but even the major cites 18M) I'm not even comparing the much denser places in the world (e.g., Gaza).

You just compared apples to oranges.

~6.954 (as of 2016 so actually higher) million of those 15m people live in 8,244 km^2 in the Greater Toronto Hamilton area, which works out to 843 people per square kilometer (vs 3368 for Istanbul).

Yes, 1/4 the density, yes, but nowhere close to the bizarre comparison you gave, where you used literally uninhabitable/barely-settled areas of the province (Ontario is huge and mostly rock and lakes) and compared to one of the densest cities in the world. At least compare urban area to urban area.

Toronto is the 3rd or 4th most populated city in North America, depending on how you count. Not some quaint arctic getaway. Also sits at the same latitude as e.g. Marseille in the south of France, or Florence in Italy. So not exactly northern at all.

Also if we restrict to just the actual technical city of Toronto proper, the density is higher than what you gave for Istanbul: 2,794,356 people in 630.20km^2 == 4435 people per square kilometer.

So... Check your biases at the door.

Re: Canada's population reaches 40M

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Post by NoRelToEmber »

throw0101b wrote: post #7
semihsalihoglu wrote: post #2

I've been living in Canada for 8 years and I generally heard people referring to "35M people", which I believe will soon change to "40M" people. Interesting that there is apparently a population clock that model's Canada's population: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/71-607-x/71-607-x2018005... See also the Century Initiative: https://www.centuryinitiative.ca/ to reach 100M by 2100.

> See also the Century Initiative: https://www.centuryinitiative.ca/ to reach 100M by 2100. Doug Sanders (International-Affairs Columnist, The Globe and Mail) has a good book on this: * http://www.dougsaunders.net/about/maximum-canada/

> to ensure [..] ecological sustainability, Canada needs to triple its population.

This is beyond farcical.

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